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Where did the idea of the tin foil hat come from?

48 points by gumby 2y ago

spacebacon 2y ago
We are all vulnerable to abstractions. Those with thinner boundaries of the mind are easier to penetrate with folklore. Often these disinformation efforts are emotionally powerful enough to transcend science and reason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundaries_of_the_mind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundaries_of_the_mind
- blueflow 2y ago
  These are called "Tropes" and their workings teached in literature classes. As tropes are fiction and tradited, it is important to be able to differentiate between facts and tropes.
- feoren 2y ago
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ulfbert_inc 2y ago
>Wearing one signals to others that you’re unhinged, have a deep distrust of the government, or that you’re really worried about aliens. >have a deep distrust of the government sure Gizmodo, being distrustful of a massive power entity is a lunacy /s
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  Lunacy is seeing “deep state” conspiracies everywhere. That’s not healthy skepticism.
  - illuminant 2y ago
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  - roenxi 2y ago
    That is getting in to citation needed territory. The state in most countries controls between 30 and 60% of the GDP. It is a prime target for corruption and anyone who likes money or abusing power will be drawn to it like a magnet. Pretty much all of the major powers are spying on almost literally everything that happens on the internet and we know that reasonably stable societies can go full Nazi in less than 20 years which is a legitimately terrifying combination. An entity with that level of power and reach deserves extreme scepticism. As we discovered through the noble sacrifice of a lot of Chinese and Russians the people in bureaucracies are quite comfortable with accidentally causing millions of needless deaths through sheer administrative efficiency in implementing bad policies. The problem with deep state conspiracies isn't the level of scepticism, it is that the theories don't protect the people who hold them. Knowing that a bureaucrat is willing to disarm you then starve you to death ... does not help that much when the army or secret police gets involved.
    - dingnuts 2y ago
      > the theories don't protect the people who hold them. Knowing that a bureaucrat is willing to disarm you then starve you to death ... does not help that much when the army or secret police gets involved. the unelected bureaucrat branch of the US government, referred to as the "deep state" by some, is so large and powerful due to funding. The people who use the term "deep state" unironically are engaged in political activism where they are arguing for dismantling, drawing down, and defunding bureaus that they feel are out of control. it's ironic that these activists are dismissed by you as being mere "conspiracy theories". it's like calling BLM a conspiracy theory. people who are fighting the power of unelected bureaucrats are political activists. They're just defamed by the same machine that they're opposed to. What a shock! The people in power defame and attempt to discredit those who seek to remove them from power. Truly, if you do not understand the complaints of those who decry the undeserved and overgrown power of the deep state, you are not thinking about the position of those who hold those views long enough to understand them. You don't have to AGREE with them, but they aren't touting a conspiracy theory. The administrative state exists, is large, has power, and these are activists who want to change that. They want to stop it before there are secret police or the army is corrupted. Of course, the CIA is secret police, and they coined the epithet "conspiracy theory" that you repeat in order to discredit these activists. Coincidence?
  - pessimizer 2y ago
    Unless you're talking about any of America's current enemies list, where not seeing state conspiracies everywhere is not healthy skepticism. The real question is when will they start treating skepticism as a medical condition, and how can I invest now in the drugs that will be advertised to treat it?
- zamadatix 2y ago
  Deep distrust in this context is more like "lizard people are running the government as a tool to control us" where the entity secretly exists for a nefarious purpose rather than the stated one and there can be no level of trust with anything from it as a result. It's not the same as general distrust which would be more like "I don't trust all politicians inherently have our best interests at heart or that they will never abuse their power" where you don't blindly take everything at face value but you also don't blindly dismiss everything as outright untrustworthy either.
  - aodonnell2536 2y ago
    No, I don’t believe it is. There’s much wiggle room between the two scenarios you painted. Of course one can have a deep distrust of the government without believing it’s run by lizard people from another planet.
    - zamadatix 2y ago
      Neither example is meant to be implied as the only possible way of for forming that kind of distrust rather examples of logic used and types of conclusions reached. I could just have easily said "people who think lizard people want to hold us back from discovering advanced math" as a reason some deeply distrust all formal math and your response would be focusing on how there are other ways (besides lizard people) to deeply distrust all existing math - completely sidestepping the actual point point around the absurdity and unfalsifiability of the type of conclusion about deep distrust of all of math itself vs the types of conclusions normal distrust reaches (e.g. "I know not everything in a maths textbook will always be right but I can try to think about each consideration independent of a central conspiracy on all of math". Put another way without specific example or analogy: if there is some organization as large as a nation's government (thousands upon thousands of organizations, possibly millions of people) and you can't weigh things done by said government without always invoking a single nefarious/secretive plot or group being behind it every time then you've left the realm of standard or reasonable distrust and entered the realm of unfalsifiable, unhinged thinking the article is meaning by deep distrust. Even the worst governments in our world's history aren't reasonably measured that way. The alternative to this is not blind trust, it's normal distrust GP was arguing for.
bee_rider 2y ago
These days, conspiracy theorists seem to be some of the most open to manipulation folks out there. > Even though “tin foil hat” is the expression, most people use aluminum foil these days. This is probably why, we’ve been duped! They replaced the tin with aluminum. Everyone knows aluminum has mind control enhancing, not reducing, powers.
- throwup238 2y ago
  I think that has always been the case. Dale Gribble predates the latest round of conspiracy madness by a few years and he was just as gullible. He’s the archetypal conspiracy theorist of the 90s.
  - bee_rider 2y ago
    But nowadays with TikTok and YouTube, Dale Gribble can become an influencer, and at home video editing is so good that he can have his own green-screened newsroom with all the accoutrements of respectability. Or he could just start a podcast.
    - tombert 2y ago
      Very tangential, but the voice actor of Dale (Johnny Hardwick, RIP) actually had YouTube videos playing Dale as Rust Shackleford in The Rusty Report. My head canon says that this is where Dale ended up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wiVDr-Pr5o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wiVDr-Pr5o
      - rootsudo 2y ago
        I am both amused and in horror about this, it really shows the decline of what passes as a conspiracy theory but I am deeply amused how it does follow the canon of the show faithfully and if King of the Hill was to be made in todays time, I can see this and just having this difference in times really is amusing - It makes it much clear what is healthy paraonia and what is unhealthy paranoia. Granted what is healthy paraonia and how can there be a spectrum but - geez. I just can't tell anymore. Maybe I could never tell.
mistermann 2y ago
> But the truth is, there’s really no evidence that a centralized power is trying to control your brain through electromagnetic waves entering your brain stem. https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/the-phrase-no-evidence-is-a-red-flag https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/the-phrase-no-evidence-is-a... > But the truth is... https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truth/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truth/ Relevant: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/psychology-normative-cognition/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/psychology-normative-cogn... https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/belief/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/belief/
bregma 2y ago
Of course any kind of non-ferrous headgear is not going to work to block the kind of radiation that the gov't uses for control. At least, that what they want you to believe since this kind of low technology is so accessible and effective.
_yb2s 2y ago
Ha! As if it required an entire system to control you, I could do it with a TV or the hypnotic trigger of "tell me more about yourself." -Edward Teach M.D.
blue_dragon 2y ago
The CIA popularized the "tinfoil hat conspiracy nut" as a reverse-psychology trick back in the '60s as part of Operation Mockingbird. The government had seen promising results in its experiments to control human emotions via radio-wave emissions, and they wanted to deploy this technology on a national scale. However, one recurring problem was that thin films of conductive material, such as aluminum foil, had a tendency to scramble the control waves and render them useless. In response, the CIA launched a massive press campaign intended to smear and delegitimize the wearing of tinfoil hats, with the ultimate goal of preemptively convincing the public not to wear them via threat of social ostracization. Considering the widespread mockery levied at the tinfoil community today, I'd say their efforts have worked quite well. You can read more about Operation Mockingbird here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
- golergka 2y ago
  > The government had seen promising results in its experiments to control human emotions via radio-wave emissions There's no mention of this in the Wikipedia article.
  - secretsatan 2y ago
    This is common, conspiracy theorists never read the links they forward, it is sufficient to have something that passes first muster, a scientific article, a report, something with the right sounding title, they'll never read the contents.
- moralestapia 2y ago
  ??? Is this /s? ChatGPT? Both?
  - ManuelKiessling 2y ago
    I suspect a „flood the channel with shit“ background. I’m starting to see this pattern more regularly lately: on a social media site, mix some nonsense into some real context “Foo”, and add a link to the Wikipedia for “Foo”. Enough readers will be too lazy to actually read the Wikipedia article to find out that “Foo” didn’t contain the crazy parts, but will vaguely remember “there was this Foo thing with this really crazy stuff, but it wasn’t made up — it’s all official, it’s on Wikipedia!“ The gp is a prime example — even in the well educated HN crowd, there are now probably a handful of people that will vaguely have in the back of their minds: „there was a CIA media influencing campaign in the sixties, they even used radio waves for mind control.“ Only the first part is true, but both information now live rent-free in their mind, intermingled, and have the same „truthiness value“. Edit: could aim at machines as well as humans. It’s just a tiny signal, but one more signal for Google Search, Bing, GPT etc. that „CIA“ and „mind-control radio-waves“ are somehow related to each other.
pessimizer 2y ago
> The tin-foil hat can be traced back to 1927, first spotted by Business Insider roughly a decade ago, in a short story titled “The Tissue-Culture King.” It’s a strange short story written by Julian Huxley, whose brother Alduous was a prolific writer and author of Brave New World. It was Julian, however, who was possibly the first to mention wrapping your cranium in foil. I absolutely guarantee that this isn't the origin of the term "tinfoil hat" or of people accusing people that they want to discount as "wearing a tinfoil hat." What happened was a writer came across an early mention in fiction of somebody using a metal shield to fend off mind control rays that no one read and that inspired no one, and they thought they might be able to build an article around it. Using a metal shield to fend off a charge is obvious, although when it comes to a Faraday cage around your head, your neck is a problem. "Tinfoil hat" is an accusation. Find the first person recorded accusing someone else of wearing a tinfoil hat. Find out of the reference confused people, or if it seemed familiar to people. If it confused people, try to find whether he/she was asked to explain it. If it was familiar to people, look for other contemporaneous mentions and try again.
blueflow 2y ago
TvTropes at it was first: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TinfoilHat https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TinfoilHat Feel invited to click around that site. It is a useful thing to be aware what "Tropes" are as they are fiction.
interludead 2y ago
I remember running around with friends in those hats when I was a child.
andrensairr 2y ago
I worked with a fellow who was adamant that molybdenum was a better choice for head protection, and that tin or al-foil was just a cheap government trick to convince people into ineffective protection. He was a funny guy who could say things like this with a convincing straight face.
TowerTall 2y ago
From one the great web 2.0 site "Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie" (Created in 1997) [1] [2]: [...] There is a long history of using aluminum to both deflect mind control signals and to control them. Evidence suggests that the ancient Atlanteans used aluminum armor and psychotrons in their wars with the Phoenician Old Dynasty. [...] The first truly modern instance of anti-psychotronic aluminum use was in the late 18th century by the American statesman, philosopher, and inventor Benjamin Franklin. His discoveries were built upon in the beginning of the 20th century by Yugoslavian born electrical genius Nikola Tesla. Of course, the US military has been researching aluminum for use in psychotronic weapons and armor as long as it has been involved in mind control, which is to say since it's inception. [1] https://zapatopi.net/afdb/history.html https://zapatopi.net/afdb/history.html [2] Please treat all info on the site as a joke. It is a very well done website, but I would take all info provide there with a grain of salt as it is a humorous website. Neverless a brilliant website that makes me laugh.
illuminant 2y ago
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- animaomnium 2y ago
  It is a waste of time to continue to try to develop a power one does not have. Manipulating (e.g. "people who down vote [sic] refuse to believe"), spreading fear (e.g. "[mind manipulation occurs on] an 'industrial' scale"), and inflating one's own ego (e.g. "I am a renegade of thought control") contribute little to the discussion of this article. That is all.
  - jajko 2y ago
    Rational comments can't change a mind driven primarily by emotions, especially negative ones like fear. We humans are not rational beings at the bottom of the things, and our school system does little to fight that. Thats why elections look like they look, that's why internet is not anymore a beacon of freedom and truth, but rather swamp of lies, manipulation and half-truths that one has to have a dedicated skill to navigate through. A skill many older folks (but not only them) simply don't have and probably never will, this covers ie my parents too. Folks that will listen to those sweet little and big lies about how everything will be great without great changes and sacrifices, when reality is way more complex.
    - illuminant 2y ago
      I honestly cannot tell if your speaking for or against my first hand account, or the vehement denier :/
  - spacebacon 2y ago
    Accurate and useful information for anyone that has ever overestimated their individual ability to discern all of reality with a mere folklore sense of it.
    - illuminant 2y ago
      Every sitting president since George W has had an "introductory" level of awareness with thought control, America's grand extortionist. George W had been indoctrinated since college, during his xxx initiation. Before that, like you they only had a Man's ignorance in themselves. I think it is time to stop denying the exogenous of thought control. For the sake of world peace and all (your weaponized denial.) I know you'll call me crazy, that doesn't make it untrue.
gg1993 2y ago
I make tin foil hats aka beanies with silver lining,, and clothing to deflect, Feels nice

48 points by gumby 2y ago

We are all vulnerable to abstractions. Those with thinner boundaries of the mind are easier to penetrate with folklore. Often these disinformation efforts are emotionally powerful enough to transcend science and reason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundaries_of_the_mind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundaries_of_the_mind

blueflow 2y ago
These are called "Tropes" and their workings teached in literature classes. As tropes are fiction and tradited, it is important to be able to differentiate between facts and tropes.
feoren 2y ago
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ulfbert_inc 2y ago

>Wearing one signals to others that you’re unhinged, have a deep distrust of the government, or that you’re really worried about aliens. >have a deep distrust of the government sure Gizmodo, being distrustful of a massive power entity is a lunacy /s

rootusrootus 2y ago
Lunacy is seeing “deep state” conspiracies everywhere. That’s not healthy skepticism.
- illuminant 2y ago
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- roenxi 2y ago
  That is getting in to citation needed territory. The state in most countries controls between 30 and 60% of the GDP. It is a prime target for corruption and anyone who likes money or abusing power will be drawn to it like a magnet. Pretty much all of the major powers are spying on almost literally everything that happens on the internet and we know that reasonably stable societies can go full Nazi in less than 20 years which is a legitimately terrifying combination. An entity with that level of power and reach deserves extreme scepticism. As we discovered through the noble sacrifice of a lot of Chinese and Russians the people in bureaucracies are quite comfortable with accidentally causing millions of needless deaths through sheer administrative efficiency in implementing bad policies. The problem with deep state conspiracies isn't the level of scepticism, it is that the theories don't protect the people who hold them. Knowing that a bureaucrat is willing to disarm you then starve you to death ... does not help that much when the army or secret police gets involved.
  - dingnuts 2y ago
    > the theories don't protect the people who hold them. Knowing that a bureaucrat is willing to disarm you then starve you to death ... does not help that much when the army or secret police gets involved. the unelected bureaucrat branch of the US government, referred to as the "deep state" by some, is so large and powerful due to funding. The people who use the term "deep state" unironically are engaged in political activism where they are arguing for dismantling, drawing down, and defunding bureaus that they feel are out of control. it's ironic that these activists are dismissed by you as being mere "conspiracy theories". it's like calling BLM a conspiracy theory. people who are fighting the power of unelected bureaucrats are political activists. They're just defamed by the same machine that they're opposed to. What a shock! The people in power defame and attempt to discredit those who seek to remove them from power. Truly, if you do not understand the complaints of those who decry the undeserved and overgrown power of the deep state, you are not thinking about the position of those who hold those views long enough to understand them. You don't have to AGREE with them, but they aren't touting a conspiracy theory. The administrative state exists, is large, has power, and these are activists who want to change that. They want to stop it before there are secret police or the army is corrupted. Of course, the CIA is secret police, and they coined the epithet "conspiracy theory" that you repeat in order to discredit these activists. Coincidence?
- pessimizer 2y ago
  Unless you're talking about any of America's current enemies list, where not seeing state conspiracies everywhere is not healthy skepticism. The real question is when will they start treating skepticism as a medical condition, and how can I invest now in the drugs that will be advertised to treat it?
zamadatix 2y ago
Deep distrust in this context is more like "lizard people are running the government as a tool to control us" where the entity secretly exists for a nefarious purpose rather than the stated one and there can be no level of trust with anything from it as a result. It's not the same as general distrust which would be more like "I don't trust all politicians inherently have our best interests at heart or that they will never abuse their power" where you don't blindly take everything at face value but you also don't blindly dismiss everything as outright untrustworthy either.
- aodonnell2536 2y ago
  No, I don’t believe it is. There’s much wiggle room between the two scenarios you painted. Of course one can have a deep distrust of the government without believing it’s run by lizard people from another planet.
  - zamadatix 2y ago
    Neither example is meant to be implied as the only possible way of for forming that kind of distrust rather examples of logic used and types of conclusions reached. I could just have easily said "people who think lizard people want to hold us back from discovering advanced math" as a reason some deeply distrust all formal math and your response would be focusing on how there are other ways (besides lizard people) to deeply distrust all existing math - completely sidestepping the actual point point around the absurdity and unfalsifiability of the type of conclusion about deep distrust of all of math itself vs the types of conclusions normal distrust reaches (e.g. "I know not everything in a maths textbook will always be right but I can try to think about each consideration independent of a central conspiracy on all of math". Put another way without specific example or analogy: if there is some organization as large as a nation's government (thousands upon thousands of organizations, possibly millions of people) and you can't weigh things done by said government without always invoking a single nefarious/secretive plot or group being behind it every time then you've left the realm of standard or reasonable distrust and entered the realm of unfalsifiable, unhinged thinking the article is meaning by deep distrust. Even the worst governments in our world's history aren't reasonably measured that way. The alternative to this is not blind trust, it's normal distrust GP was arguing for.

bee_rider 2y ago

These days, conspiracy theorists seem to be some of the most open to manipulation folks out there. > Even though “tin foil hat” is the expression, most people use aluminum foil these days. This is probably why, we’ve been duped! They replaced the tin with aluminum. Everyone knows aluminum has mind control enhancing, not reducing, powers.

throwup238 2y ago
I think that has always been the case. Dale Gribble predates the latest round of conspiracy madness by a few years and he was just as gullible. He’s the archetypal conspiracy theorist of the 90s.
- bee_rider 2y ago
  But nowadays with TikTok and YouTube, Dale Gribble can become an influencer, and at home video editing is so good that he can have his own green-screened newsroom with all the accoutrements of respectability. Or he could just start a podcast.
  - tombert 2y ago
    Very tangential, but the voice actor of Dale (Johnny Hardwick, RIP) actually had YouTube videos playing Dale as Rust Shackleford in The Rusty Report. My head canon says that this is where Dale ended up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wiVDr-Pr5o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wiVDr-Pr5o
    - rootsudo 2y ago
      I am both amused and in horror about this, it really shows the decline of what passes as a conspiracy theory but I am deeply amused how it does follow the canon of the show faithfully and if King of the Hill was to be made in todays time, I can see this and just having this difference in times really is amusing - It makes it much clear what is healthy paraonia and what is unhealthy paranoia. Granted what is healthy paraonia and how can there be a spectrum but - geez. I just can't tell anymore. Maybe I could never tell.

mistermann 2y ago

> But the truth is, there’s really no evidence that a centralized power is trying to control your brain through electromagnetic waves entering your brain stem. https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/the-phrase-no-evidence-is-a-red-flag https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/the-phrase-no-evidence-is-a... > But the truth is... https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truth/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truth/ Relevant: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/psychology-normative-cognition/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/psychology-normative-cogn... https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/belief/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/belief/

bregma 2y ago

Of course any kind of non-ferrous headgear is not going to work to block the kind of radiation that the gov't uses for control. At least, that what they want you to believe since this kind of low technology is so accessible and effective.

_yb2s 2y ago

Ha! As if it required an entire system to control you, I could do it with a TV or the hypnotic trigger of "tell me more about yourself." -Edward Teach M.D.

blue_dragon 2y ago

The CIA popularized the "tinfoil hat conspiracy nut" as a reverse-psychology trick back in the '60s as part of Operation Mockingbird. The government had seen promising results in its experiments to control human emotions via radio-wave emissions, and they wanted to deploy this technology on a national scale. However, one recurring problem was that thin films of conductive material, such as aluminum foil, had a tendency to scramble the control waves and render them useless. In response, the CIA launched a massive press campaign intended to smear and delegitimize the wearing of tinfoil hats, with the ultimate goal of preemptively convincing the public not to wear them via threat of social ostracization. Considering the widespread mockery levied at the tinfoil community today, I'd say their efforts have worked quite well. You can read more about Operation Mockingbird here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

golergka 2y ago
> The government had seen promising results in its experiments to control human emotions via radio-wave emissions There's no mention of this in the Wikipedia article.
- secretsatan 2y ago
  This is common, conspiracy theorists never read the links they forward, it is sufficient to have something that passes first muster, a scientific article, a report, something with the right sounding title, they'll never read the contents.
moralestapia 2y ago
??? Is this /s? ChatGPT? Both?
- ManuelKiessling 2y ago
  I suspect a „flood the channel with shit“ background. I’m starting to see this pattern more regularly lately: on a social media site, mix some nonsense into some real context “Foo”, and add a link to the Wikipedia for “Foo”. Enough readers will be too lazy to actually read the Wikipedia article to find out that “Foo” didn’t contain the crazy parts, but will vaguely remember “there was this Foo thing with this really crazy stuff, but it wasn’t made up — it’s all official, it’s on Wikipedia!“ The gp is a prime example — even in the well educated HN crowd, there are now probably a handful of people that will vaguely have in the back of their minds: „there was a CIA media influencing campaign in the sixties, they even used radio waves for mind control.“ Only the first part is true, but both information now live rent-free in their mind, intermingled, and have the same „truthiness value“. Edit: could aim at machines as well as humans. It’s just a tiny signal, but one more signal for Google Search, Bing, GPT etc. that „CIA“ and „mind-control radio-waves“ are somehow related to each other.

pessimizer 2y ago

> The tin-foil hat can be traced back to 1927, first spotted by Business Insider roughly a decade ago, in a short story titled “The Tissue-Culture King.” It’s a strange short story written by Julian Huxley, whose brother Alduous was a prolific writer and author of Brave New World. It was Julian, however, who was possibly the first to mention wrapping your cranium in foil. I absolutely guarantee that this isn't the origin of the term "tinfoil hat" or of people accusing people that they want to discount as "wearing a tinfoil hat." What happened was a writer came across an early mention in fiction of somebody using a metal shield to fend off mind control rays that no one read and that inspired no one, and they thought they might be able to build an article around it. Using a metal shield to fend off a charge is obvious, although when it comes to a Faraday cage around your head, your neck is a problem. "Tinfoil hat" is an accusation. Find the first person recorded accusing someone else of wearing a tinfoil hat. Find out of the reference confused people, or if it seemed familiar to people. If it confused people, try to find whether he/she was asked to explain it. If it was familiar to people, look for other contemporaneous mentions and try again.

blueflow 2y ago

TvTropes at it was first: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TinfoilHat https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TinfoilHat Feel invited to click around that site. It is a useful thing to be aware what "Tropes" are as they are fiction.

interludead 2y ago

I remember running around with friends in those hats when I was a child.

andrensairr 2y ago

I worked with a fellow who was adamant that molybdenum was a better choice for head protection, and that tin or al-foil was just a cheap government trick to convince people into ineffective protection. He was a funny guy who could say things like this with a convincing straight face.

TowerTall 2y ago

From one the great web 2.0 site "Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie" (Created in 1997) [1] [2]: [...] There is a long history of using aluminum to both deflect mind control signals and to control them. Evidence suggests that the ancient Atlanteans used aluminum armor and psychotrons in their wars with the Phoenician Old Dynasty. [...] The first truly modern instance of anti-psychotronic aluminum use was in the late 18th century by the American statesman, philosopher, and inventor Benjamin Franklin. His discoveries were built upon in the beginning of the 20th century by Yugoslavian born electrical genius Nikola Tesla. Of course, the US military has been researching aluminum for use in psychotronic weapons and armor as long as it has been involved in mind control, which is to say since it's inception. [1] https://zapatopi.net/afdb/history.html https://zapatopi.net/afdb/history.html [2] Please treat all info on the site as a joke. It is a very well done website, but I would take all info provide there with a grain of salt as it is a humorous website. Neverless a brilliant website that makes me laugh.

illuminant 2y ago

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animaomnium 2y ago
It is a waste of time to continue to try to develop a power one does not have. Manipulating (e.g. "people who down vote [sic] refuse to believe"), spreading fear (e.g. "[mind manipulation occurs on] an 'industrial' scale"), and inflating one's own ego (e.g. "I am a renegade of thought control") contribute little to the discussion of this article. That is all.
- jajko 2y ago
  Rational comments can't change a mind driven primarily by emotions, especially negative ones like fear. We humans are not rational beings at the bottom of the things, and our school system does little to fight that. Thats why elections look like they look, that's why internet is not anymore a beacon of freedom and truth, but rather swamp of lies, manipulation and half-truths that one has to have a dedicated skill to navigate through. A skill many older folks (but not only them) simply don't have and probably never will, this covers ie my parents too. Folks that will listen to those sweet little and big lies about how everything will be great without great changes and sacrifices, when reality is way more complex.
  - illuminant 2y ago
    I honestly cannot tell if your speaking for or against my first hand account, or the vehement denier :/
- spacebacon 2y ago
  Accurate and useful information for anyone that has ever overestimated their individual ability to discern all of reality with a mere folklore sense of it.
  - illuminant 2y ago
    Every sitting president since George W has had an "introductory" level of awareness with thought control, America's grand extortionist. George W had been indoctrinated since college, during his xxx initiation. Before that, like you they only had a Man's ignorance in themselves. I think it is time to stop denying the exogenous of thought control. For the sake of world peace and all (your weaponized denial.) I know you'll call me crazy, that doesn't make it untrue.

gg1993 2y ago

I make tin foil hats aka beanies with silver lining,, and clothing to deflect, Feels nice