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This unhelpful whataboutism doesn’t refute earlier claims in this thread nor does it reinforce any opposite claims. What are you trying to say about the safety

• organsnyder 2y ago
  I'm saying that the safety of suburbs is overstated due to the higher number of vehicle miles travelled.
  • jjav 2y ago
    > I'm saying that the safety of suburbs is overstated due to the higher number of vehicle miles travelled. Let's see.. Representing city: traffic fatalities in San Francisco in 2021: 30 [0] Representing suburbia: traffic fatalities in Palo Alto in 2020: 4 [1] (On a quick search I didn't find stats for exact same year, but these are pretty close for a sense of scale.) [0] https://www.sfgov.org/scorecards/transportation/traffic-fatalities https://www.sfgov.org/scorecards/transportation/traffic-fata... [1] https://www.city-data.com/accidents/acc-Palo-Alto-California.html https://www.city-data.com/accidents/acc-Palo-Alto-California...
    • organsnyder 2y ago
      San Francisco population: 808,437 as of 2020 (Wikipedia) Palo Alto population: 68,572 as of 2020 (Wikipedia) Traffic fatalities per capita in San Francisco in 2021: 3.7 / 100,000 Traffic fatalities per capita in Palo Alto in 2020: 5.8 / 100,000 Also, 2020 and 2021 aren't comparable due to the pandemic. Traffic fatalities in the United States increased 10 percent from 2020 to 2021 [0]. [0] https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/813509.pdf https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/...