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Along with their apparent restriction of the 'desktop' on arm, this is the reason I lost interest in windows8 on arm. So far a linux + android solution (like ub

by polshaw 14y ago

Along with their apparent restriction of the 'desktop' on arm, this is the reason I lost interest in windows8 on arm. So far a linux + android solution (like ubuntu have demonstrated) seems more powerful and very will also have more apps to start (way to go throw away windows' advantage #1). It seems quite short-sighted, too, as I see ARM as being a viable laptop platform in the life of windows 8, but MS are restricting it to 'device' status. Also, we've known this for a long time now.

rbanffy 14y ago
Windows already had no advantage - all programs would need to be rebuilt for the new platform. That's what killed Windows NT on everything non-x86. The only apps that will be cross-platform will be WinRT/Metro based ones.
- brudgers 14y ago
  Metro is a set of UI guidelines, not a set of programming tools. Applications built using the Silverlight Framework (not to be confused with the browser plugin) should be suitable for cross platform development because CLR runs on both platforms. CLR remains Microsoft's way of integrating the "write once, run anywhere" philosophy within the Windows ecosystem in order to deal with legacy issues.
  - rbanffy 14y ago
    Thanks. This whole stack is very confusing to me these days (I once was a Windows developer, one of the first MCPs in Brazil, but that was another life, a very long time ago). And Android, iOS and OSX are all waiting in line for my attention before I consider learning modern Windows development again. I sincerely hope that, if I wait long enough, I won't need to ;-)
  - jack12 14y ago
    Are you sure you're not describing cross-platform with Windows Phone instead of Windows 8? I thought for Windows 8, Microsoft is pushing WinRT as the cross-platform solution, and that "binaries" crossing from x86/x64 to arm will work as-is for javascript, as-is (if pure) for CLR, and with no modifications but requiring recompilation for native (C/C++) WinRT apps.
    - brudgers 14y ago
      If you're writing in C/C++ rather than C#, then you're off the CLR ranch, so to speak. It's like saying Java isn't portable because a program links to custom libraries written in C. That said, rumor has it that the next version of Windows Phone will not be Silverlight (though XAML and Silverlight are fairly similar), but based on WinRT. That's a good thing because it will allow Windows Phone Apps to better integrate Javascript.
- cube13 14y ago
  >The only apps that will be cross-platform will be WinRT/Metro based ones. Is this true? The code is cross-platform, but I was under the impression that the executable was not. You still need to compile the app for both X86 and ARM.

by polshaw 14y ago

rbanffy 14y ago

Windows already had no advantage - all programs would need to be rebuilt for the new platform. That's what killed Windows NT on everything non-x86. The only apps that will be cross-platform will be WinRT/Metro based ones.

brudgers 14y ago
Metro is a set of UI guidelines, not a set of programming tools. Applications built using the Silverlight Framework (not to be confused with the browser plugin) should be suitable for cross platform development because CLR runs on both platforms. CLR remains Microsoft's way of integrating the "write once, run anywhere" philosophy within the Windows ecosystem in order to deal with legacy issues.
- rbanffy 14y ago
  Thanks. This whole stack is very confusing to me these days (I once was a Windows developer, one of the first MCPs in Brazil, but that was another life, a very long time ago). And Android, iOS and OSX are all waiting in line for my attention before I consider learning modern Windows development again. I sincerely hope that, if I wait long enough, I won't need to ;-)
- jack12 14y ago
  Are you sure you're not describing cross-platform with Windows Phone instead of Windows 8? I thought for Windows 8, Microsoft is pushing WinRT as the cross-platform solution, and that "binaries" crossing from x86/x64 to arm will work as-is for javascript, as-is (if pure) for CLR, and with no modifications but requiring recompilation for native (C/C++) WinRT apps.
  - brudgers 14y ago
    If you're writing in C/C++ rather than C#, then you're off the CLR ranch, so to speak. It's like saying Java isn't portable because a program links to custom libraries written in C. That said, rumor has it that the next version of Windows Phone will not be Silverlight (though XAML and Silverlight are fairly similar), but based on WinRT. That's a good thing because it will allow Windows Phone Apps to better integrate Javascript.
cube13 14y ago
>The only apps that will be cross-platform will be WinRT/Metro based ones. Is this true? The code is cross-platform, but I was under the impression that the executable was not. You still need to compile the app for both X86 and ARM.