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WebKit is used by the second most popular browser after Chrome. Don't forget iOS users. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share https://gs.statcounter.

by lye 2y ago

WebKit is used by the second most popular browser after Chrome. Don't forget iOS users. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

tyho 2y ago
That's an odd way of saying the third most popular browser.
- Terretta 2y ago
  If you click link, look at chart, you'll see they mean second.
  - stavros 2y ago
    That's always confusing. They should have said "the second most popular browser (after Chrome)", or something like that.
    - DANmode 2y ago
      "blah blah blah, *second only to Chrome."
knallfrosch 2y ago
My iOS/Safari is so bad, I have both Firefox and Chrome installed as a backup in case it doesn't work. They should start fixing Safari for real instead of adding Quirks.
- hhh 2y ago
  what’s wrong with ios/safari? i don’t really ever have issues
  - flessner 2y ago
    Safari on MacOS is really nice, fast and offers everything I need... but every 3 months or so I stumble on a website that refuses to work at all - rendering looks off, buttons don't work etc... Switching to Chrome usually fixes it - but I always question my sanity for about 10 minutes until I try it in Chrome.
    - SassyBird 2y ago
      It’s the opposite for me. I keep finding dumb bugs in Chromium, when it comes to correct website rendering and event handling (always regressions). Safari and Firefox on the other hand never have those issues. The only problem is: Safari has piss-poor ad blockers. Firefox blocks custom system-wide keyboard shortcuts (on Mac).
- jraph 2y ago
  I have bad news for you. On iOS, Firefox and Chrome use the same WebKit as Safari (because Apple doesn't allow third party browser engines on its App store).
  - dizhn 2y ago
    Didn't they allow alternative engines recently? They even have emulators now. Undoubtedly a change forced on them by the EU.
    - jraph 2y ago
      Apparently you are right, they do since around February on iOS 17.4. In the EU only. https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engines/ https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engi...
      - tjoff 2y ago
        Neat, question is if any of the browsers actually have had time to make use of it though?
        galad87 2y ago
        No.
        input_sh 2y ago
        It's not as simple as that, you're basically asking browsers to target a completely different platform, just for the EU users, where iPhones are nowhere near as popular to begin with. Google might at some point maintain two completely different Chromes targeting iOS, but I doubt anyone else will (including Firefox). Even with Chrome, I wouldn't bet on it. It's a very difficult technical problem with no clear, easily-marketable benefit to most people. Apple knew what they were doing, they've "complied", but in a way where nobody would bother.
        2y ago

by lye 2y ago

WebKit is used by the second most popular browser after Chrome. Don't forget iOS users. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

tyho 2y ago

That's an odd way of saying the third most popular browser.

Terretta 2y ago
If you click link, look at chart, you'll see they mean second.
- stavros 2y ago
  That's always confusing. They should have said "the second most popular browser (after Chrome)", or something like that.
  - DANmode 2y ago
    "blah blah blah, *second only to Chrome."

knallfrosch 2y ago

My iOS/Safari is so bad, I have both Firefox and Chrome installed as a backup in case it doesn't work. They should start fixing Safari for real instead of adding Quirks.

hhh 2y ago
what’s wrong with ios/safari? i don’t really ever have issues
- flessner 2y ago
  Safari on MacOS is really nice, fast and offers everything I need... but every 3 months or so I stumble on a website that refuses to work at all - rendering looks off, buttons don't work etc... Switching to Chrome usually fixes it - but I always question my sanity for about 10 minutes until I try it in Chrome.
  - SassyBird 2y ago
    It’s the opposite for me. I keep finding dumb bugs in Chromium, when it comes to correct website rendering and event handling (always regressions). Safari and Firefox on the other hand never have those issues. The only problem is: Safari has piss-poor ad blockers. Firefox blocks custom system-wide keyboard shortcuts (on Mac).
jraph 2y ago
I have bad news for you. On iOS, Firefox and Chrome use the same WebKit as Safari (because Apple doesn't allow third party browser engines on its App store).
- dizhn 2y ago
  Didn't they allow alternative engines recently? They even have emulators now. Undoubtedly a change forced on them by the EU.
  - jraph 2y ago
    Apparently you are right, they do since around February on iOS 17.4. In the EU only. https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engines/ https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engi...
    - tjoff 2y ago
      Neat, question is if any of the browsers actually have had time to make use of it though?
      - galad87 2y ago
        No.
      - input_sh 2y ago
        It's not as simple as that, you're basically asking browsers to target a completely different platform, just for the EU users, where iPhones are nowhere near as popular to begin with. Google might at some point maintain two completely different Chromes targeting iOS, but I doubt anyone else will (including Firefox). Even with Chrome, I wouldn't bet on it. It's a very difficult technical problem with no clear, easily-marketable benefit to most people. Apple knew what they were doing, they've "complied", but in a way where nobody would bother.
        2y ago