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Is it possible to fully remove Snap from Ubuntu 24.04 without breaking a bunch of things? That was my main reason for switching away.

by amanzi 2y ago

hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
Mine was them monetizing misery and security by withholding updates except for paid subscriptions. And the choices they make: they often leap without looking or derisking. I'll take QubesOS on the desktop, thanks, and then have a choice of flavor per app to isolate them similar to Kata Containers k8s server-side.
- udev4096 2y ago
  Are you happy with no gpu acceleration? Qubes is awesome but it is still lacking some serious usability features which everyone expects to be in a modern linux distro
  - hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
    Yeah, I don't play games on it. The mapping of hardware and network ports (in and out) is awkward and could have a better UX.
    - herewulf 2y ago
      It's hard to imagine a decent web browsing experience these days without GPU acceleration. Sadly. I still wish the web were more like Gopher.
      - hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
        https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/seamless-gpu-passthrough-on-qubes-os-with-virtualgl/20265/33 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/seamless-gpu-passthrough-on-qub... Nawh, let's not go back that far because then we lose yellow backgrounds, dithered blue sphere .GIFs, and 64pt fuchsia marquee blink tags.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  >Mine was them monetizing misery and security by withholding updates except for paid subscriptions. To be fair here, the subscription is free[1] for most home users and even some small businesses: >Free, personal subscription for 5 machines for you or any business you own, or 50 machines for active Ubuntu Community members. [1]: https://ubuntu.com/pro/subscribe https://ubuntu.com/pro/subscribe
  - hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
    They changed the bargain. It's a hassle and seems like a perfect vehicle for metadata collection.
tasuki 2y ago
I also switched away from Ubuntu after 20 years because of snaps. Went with Debian and couldn't be happier. It's like Ubuntu without the nonsense.
- weikju 2y ago
  Rather, Ubuntu is Debian with added nonsense

Is it possible to fully remove Snap from Ubuntu 24.04 without breaking a bunch of things? That was my main reason for switching away.

by amanzi 2y ago

Is it possible to fully remove Snap from Ubuntu 24.04 without breaking a bunch of things? That was my main reason for switching away.

hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago

Mine was them monetizing misery and security by withholding updates except for paid subscriptions. And the choices they make: they often leap without looking or derisking. I'll take QubesOS on the desktop, thanks, and then have a choice of flavor per app to isolate them similar to Kata Containers k8s server-side.

udev4096 2y ago
Are you happy with no gpu acceleration? Qubes is awesome but it is still lacking some serious usability features which everyone expects to be in a modern linux distro
- hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
  Yeah, I don't play games on it. The mapping of hardware and network ports (in and out) is awkward and could have a better UX.
  - herewulf 2y ago
    It's hard to imagine a decent web browsing experience these days without GPU acceleration. Sadly. I still wish the web were more like Gopher.
    - hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
      https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/seamless-gpu-passthrough-on-qubes-os-with-virtualgl/20265/33 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/seamless-gpu-passthrough-on-qub... Nawh, let's not go back that far because then we lose yellow backgrounds, dithered blue sphere .GIFs, and 64pt fuchsia marquee blink tags.
Dalewyn 2y ago
>Mine was them monetizing misery and security by withholding updates except for paid subscriptions. To be fair here, the subscription is free[1] for most home users and even some small businesses: >Free, personal subscription for 5 machines for you or any business you own, or 50 machines for active Ubuntu Community members. [1]: https://ubuntu.com/pro/subscribe https://ubuntu.com/pro/subscribe
- hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
  They changed the bargain. It's a hassle and seems like a perfect vehicle for metadata collection.

tasuki 2y ago

I also switched away from Ubuntu after 20 years because of snaps. Went with Debian and couldn't be happier. It's like Ubuntu without the nonsense.

weikju 2y ago
Rather, Ubuntu is Debian with added nonsense