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Why use a free software OS if you don’t care about free software? MacOS or Windows probably make better workstations if you are using it to run surveillancewar

by sneak 2y ago

Why use a free software OS if you don’t care about free software? MacOS or Windows probably make better workstations if you are using it to run surveillanceware like VS Code and Chrome. Why fight the uphill battle with Ubuntu at that point?

dewey 2y ago
Because the world is not black and white and not everyone thinks some telemetry data is “surveillanceware”.
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  If you're ok with telemetry, use Windows. They have plenty of it for you to be ok with...
brightball 2y ago
As a developer, coding in the same environment where you’ll deploy has a lot of perks. Plus, the docker experience on Linux is significantly better.
OsrsNeedsf2P 2y ago
I enjoy VS Code and Chrome, but I also enjoy a snappy desktop loaded with hotkeys and functionality
udev4096 2y ago
Wait until he finds out about the extreme bloat that is Ubuntu Desktop, with Snap and Flatpak to name just a few
- nirvdrum 2y ago
  Don't use Snap or Flatpak then? I don't understand the point of shaming someone for choosing a different Linux distro from you. The anti-Linux people are still pointing out wifi driver issues that were resolved 15 years ago. Here, we have a project from a historically very pro macOS developer helping onboard folks to a Linux distro, and that's still not good enough either because it's not the right distro. I've been using a Linux desktop since 1998 and while other distros have their benefits, I choose to use Ubuntu Desktop for a whole host of reasons. This bloat is a non-issue (granted, I'm not running on a netbook). If I were to help someone switch to Linux, it'd definitely be either on Ubuntu Desktop or Linux Mint.
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nathants 2y ago
ubuntu is the gateway to arch, with pairs best with xorg, emacs, and firefox. don’t forget to use a snitch. any app could start surveillance at any time for any reason. i don’t ever let firefox talk to .mozilla.. https://github.com/nathants/mighty-snitch https://github.com/nathants/mighty-snitch
boomskats 2y ago
Chrome and chromium-based runtimes like Electron on Linux have been outperforming their Windows equivalents for almost a decade, in my experience. By a huge margin. I always assumed we had ChromeOS to thank for that. I also massively disagree about Win/Mac making better workstations (though I haven't had to use Ubuntu for a very, very long time).
- attentive 2y ago
  Not when it comes to GPU acceleration in the browsers. Specifically on Nvidia.
  - boomskats 2y ago
    Yeah, but that's because of Nvidia, not Linux. Also the reason I got rid of my 3090 in favour of a 7900XT, and went all in on Ryzen mobile chipsets. Amdgpu on wayland is divine.

by sneak 2y ago

dewey 2y ago

Because the world is not black and white and not everyone thinks some telemetry data is “surveillanceware”.

wakawaka28 2y ago
If you're ok with telemetry, use Windows. They have plenty of it for you to be ok with...

brightball 2y ago

As a developer, coding in the same environment where you’ll deploy has a lot of perks. Plus, the docker experience on Linux is significantly better.

OsrsNeedsf2P 2y ago

I enjoy VS Code and Chrome, but I also enjoy a snappy desktop loaded with hotkeys and functionality

udev4096 2y ago

Wait until he finds out about the extreme bloat that is Ubuntu Desktop, with Snap and Flatpak to name just a few

nirvdrum 2y ago
Don't use Snap or Flatpak then? I don't understand the point of shaming someone for choosing a different Linux distro from you. The anti-Linux people are still pointing out wifi driver issues that were resolved 15 years ago. Here, we have a project from a historically very pro macOS developer helping onboard folks to a Linux distro, and that's still not good enough either because it's not the right distro. I've been using a Linux desktop since 1998 and while other distros have their benefits, I choose to use Ubuntu Desktop for a whole host of reasons. This bloat is a non-issue (granted, I'm not running on a netbook). If I were to help someone switch to Linux, it'd definitely be either on Ubuntu Desktop or Linux Mint.

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nathants 2y ago

ubuntu is the gateway to arch, with pairs best with xorg, emacs, and firefox. don’t forget to use a snitch. any app could start surveillance at any time for any reason. i don’t ever let firefox talk to .mozilla.. https://github.com/nathants/mighty-snitch https://github.com/nathants/mighty-snitch

boomskats 2y ago

Chrome and chromium-based runtimes like Electron on Linux have been outperforming their Windows equivalents for almost a decade, in my experience. By a huge margin. I always assumed we had ChromeOS to thank for that. I also massively disagree about Win/Mac making better workstations (though I haven't had to use Ubuntu for a very, very long time).

attentive 2y ago
Not when it comes to GPU acceleration in the browsers. Specifically on Nvidia.
- boomskats 2y ago
  Yeah, but that's because of Nvidia, not Linux. Also the reason I got rid of my 3090 in favour of a 7900XT, and went all in on Ryzen mobile chipsets. Amdgpu on wayland is divine.