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This push almost seems for want of knowledge. They were preaching the same about obesity for years, which achieved absolutely nothing, and then GLP-1s came alo
by MattGaiser 2y ago
This push almost seems for want of knowledge.
They were preaching the same about obesity for years, which achieved absolutely nothing, and then GLP-1s came along. Turns out that yes, there is indeed a hormone which can reliably be increased to cause weight loss.
- bowsamic 2y agoOkay but we haven’t found that for mental health and it may not exist, so what’s your point?
- justinator 2y ago"it's not clear how the GLP-1 drugs lead to weight loss" https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabetes/expert-answers/byetta/faq-20057955 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabet... They don't "cause" weight loss at all -- it's mostly an side effect. (sorry to be so pedantic).
- yareal 2y agoThey have on label use as weight loss medicine. It might be discovered first as a side effect, but it's genuinely considered a primary desirable effect these days.
- BobbyJo 2y agoI think parent's point was primarily that its not "hormone causes weight loss", its "hormone causes changes to innate drive, which change behavior, which causes weight loss". If you did the same things off the drugs that you did on, you would lose similar weight. Given that, the rational of the original comment makes less sense. A hormone that changed your behavior such that the resulting behavior changes made you happier is far more of an obfuscated ask of modern pharmacology, as there is no behavior change that will reliably fix the problem the same way there is for weight loss (eat less).
- epicureanideal 2y agoSure would be great if they’d find one for muscle mass that wasn’t dangerous or otherwise harmful. And of course, one for mental health. The three put together would make a very interesting society. Add nootropics to the mix and it gets even more interesting.
- s1artibartfast 2y agothey all already exist. Especially the drugs for muscle mass, which are safe and very well characterized.
- klausa 2y agoI'm curious what you mean here, other than potentially anabolic steroids? I would not call these "safe", so I think you might have meant something else?
- s1artibartfast 2y agoTestosterone and human growth hormone were the the main ones I had in mind, but I think there is much more a specialist could so that would be safe and effective
- mjbeswick 2y agoYou don't need drugs to grown muscle, just an active lifestyle; which is also highly beneficial to mental health. Many of peoples physical and mental problems are a result of their sedentary lifestyle.
- rKarpinski 2y ago> and then GLP-1s came along. Turns out that yes, there is indeed a hormone which can reliably be increased to cause weight loss. Isn't the effect that it reliably makes you eat less... which many other drugs do such as amphetamines, nicotine etc.
- gizmo686 2y agoYes. Weight loss is a common side effect of many drugs.