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There is no vendor lockin with nextjs

nicce 2y ago
Simply put - if you want get the best out of the framework, you need to host it in Vercel. Otherwise, there are better options for frameworks. No need to ”fight it”. You will find many issues from GitHub which are not considered because they would make the framework ”better” or easier to use on other clouds.
- mattigames 2y ago
  Making things worse in a free offering by a company to profit from premium offerings by the same company its the pinacle of capitalism, reminds me of a recurrent joke I have with a friend while playing Call Of Duty, that they will get greedier and soon will sell not only character's skins but also shaders/textures for the maps, oh so you want to see something better than placeholder textures? We have the DLC just for you!
  - kevindamm 2y ago
    More likely outcome: ads on static textures and between lobbies, oh but you can pay to turn them into _theme of the week_.
    - nicce 2y ago
      Don't give them ideas...
      - kevindamm 2y ago
        Environment destruction gameplay but there's always another ad under the ads, except when it's a lootbox. I can imagine worse, too! They haven't even really started turning that knob yet.
  - tmpz22 2y ago
    The Video game metaphor stretches pretty far. Madden has a monopoly license for NFL content. For a decade the biggest complaint was how they gate kept rosters behind the yearly re-release. Eventually they allowed roster sharing but they put it behind the most god awful inept UI you could possibly imagine such that practically casual gamers wouldn't bother with it. Then Madden came out with Madden Ultimate Team (like trading cards MTX) and have been neglecting non-MUT modes ever since. They don't explicitly regress the rest of their game, they just commit resources to that effect. Its like malicious compliance. They don't embrace, extend, extinguish, but they get a similar effect just with resourcing, layoffs, whatever.
- throw156754228 2y ago
  >there are better options Do you mind naming some NextJS alternatives without potential vendor lock in? Mulling a change in my fe.
  - nicce 2y ago
    For example, Remix has got a lot of traction recently. It is also backed by Shopify where the business model does not conflict. https://remix.run/ https://remix.run/
_heimdall 2y ago
There is no explicit vendor lock-in, but features of the framework are designed heavily towards Vercel-specific features. The SST team actually has an open-next project[1] that does a ton of work to shim most of the Vercel-specific features into an AWS deployment. I don't think it has full parity and it's a third party adapter from a competing host. The fact that it's needed at all is a sign of now closely tied Next and Vercel are. [1] https://github.com/sst/open-next https://github.com/sst/open-next

Simply put - if you want get the best out of the framework, you need to host it in Vercel. Otherwise, there are better options for frameworks. No need to ”fight it”. You will find many issues from GitHub which are not considered because they would make the framework ”better” or easier to use on other clouds.

mattigames 2y ago
Making things worse in a free offering by a company to profit from premium offerings by the same company its the pinacle of capitalism, reminds me of a recurrent joke I have with a friend while playing Call Of Duty, that they will get greedier and soon will sell not only character's skins but also shaders/textures for the maps, oh so you want to see something better than placeholder textures? We have the DLC just for you!
- kevindamm 2y ago
  More likely outcome: ads on static textures and between lobbies, oh but you can pay to turn them into _theme of the week_.
  - nicce 2y ago
    Don't give them ideas...
    - kevindamm 2y ago
      Environment destruction gameplay but there's always another ad under the ads, except when it's a lootbox. I can imagine worse, too! They haven't even really started turning that knob yet.
- tmpz22 2y ago
  The Video game metaphor stretches pretty far. Madden has a monopoly license for NFL content. For a decade the biggest complaint was how they gate kept rosters behind the yearly re-release. Eventually they allowed roster sharing but they put it behind the most god awful inept UI you could possibly imagine such that practically casual gamers wouldn't bother with it. Then Madden came out with Madden Ultimate Team (like trading cards MTX) and have been neglecting non-MUT modes ever since. They don't explicitly regress the rest of their game, they just commit resources to that effect. Its like malicious compliance. They don't embrace, extend, extinguish, but they get a similar effect just with resourcing, layoffs, whatever.
throw156754228 2y ago
>there are better options Do you mind naming some NextJS alternatives without potential vendor lock in? Mulling a change in my fe.
- nicce 2y ago
  For example, Remix has got a lot of traction recently. It is also backed by Shopify where the business model does not conflict. https://remix.run/ https://remix.run/

_heimdall 2y ago

There is no explicit vendor lock-in, but features of the framework are designed heavily towards Vercel-specific features. The SST team actually has an open-next project[1] that does a ton of work to shim most of the Vercel-specific features into an AWS deployment. I don't think it has full parity and it's a third party adapter from a competing host. The fact that it's needed at all is a sign of now closely tied Next and Vercel are. [1] https://github.com/sst/open-next https://github.com/sst/open-next