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thank you, that makes sense in terms of efficiency! I am not familiar with the subject, but aren't the amount of radio frequencies available rather limited?

by pheggs 2y ago

surfingdino 2y ago
Yes, that's a different type of limitation imposed on the broadcaster. My point was that AI has not got a business model except capturing whatever value remains after it destroys existing models, just like audio streaming. Recent backlash against Daniel Ek's musing on X and the general behaviour of Spotify towards artists shows signs of reaching the end of the line for this idea. Same fate awaits AI. If you see how little of substance can be found in answers given by AI luminaries in their numerous interviews you can see for yourself that those guys have no idea and no plan. The best antidote for this bullshit is to display the transcripts on YT videos and read what they are saying. It's pure nothing.
- pheggs 2y ago
  I understand where you are coming from, but I’m not sure I completely agree. Streaming music was popular even before it became legal, so I believe it's largely driven by people's desire to listen to whatever they want, whenever they want. Regarding AI, it’s true that the current results might not always be the highest quality. However, there is no theoretical limit to AI's capabilities as far as I know. With this many people working to improve it, I would personally be surprised if significant advancements aren’t made. Maybe not just next year though... Ultimately, I guess we will have to wait and see. Who knows, maybe you will be right in the end :)
  - FabHK 2y ago
    > Streaming music was popular even before it became legal Downloading music was popular. You download once, you listen many times. On Napster, it could take hours until a song was downloaded. No way you'd delete it and download again next time you want to listen to it.
  - surfingdino 2y ago
    The number of people working on improving AI is relatively small compared to the number of people reselling OpenAI APIs so I don't expect huge improvements in the next 5-10 years. The real value of AI is in ML, but with human supervision and interpretation of results. GenAI is the worst thing that happened to AI, because its coming rejection will reflect badly on the rest of the advances broadly labelled as AI.
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thank you, that makes sense in terms of efficiency! I am not familiar with the subject, but aren't the amount of radio frequencies available rather limited?

by pheggs 2y ago

thank you, that makes sense in terms of efficiency! I am not familiar with the subject, but aren't the amount of radio frequencies available rather limited?

surfingdino 2y ago

Yes, that's a different type of limitation imposed on the broadcaster. My point was that AI has not got a business model except capturing whatever value remains after it destroys existing models, just like audio streaming. Recent backlash against Daniel Ek's musing on X and the general behaviour of Spotify towards artists shows signs of reaching the end of the line for this idea. Same fate awaits AI. If you see how little of substance can be found in answers given by AI luminaries in their numerous interviews you can see for yourself that those guys have no idea and no plan. The best antidote for this bullshit is to display the transcripts on YT videos and read what they are saying. It's pure nothing.

pheggs 2y ago
I understand where you are coming from, but I’m not sure I completely agree. Streaming music was popular even before it became legal, so I believe it's largely driven by people's desire to listen to whatever they want, whenever they want. Regarding AI, it’s true that the current results might not always be the highest quality. However, there is no theoretical limit to AI's capabilities as far as I know. With this many people working to improve it, I would personally be surprised if significant advancements aren’t made. Maybe not just next year though... Ultimately, I guess we will have to wait and see. Who knows, maybe you will be right in the end :)
- FabHK 2y ago
  > Streaming music was popular even before it became legal Downloading music was popular. You download once, you listen many times. On Napster, it could take hours until a song was downloaded. No way you'd delete it and download again next time you want to listen to it.
- surfingdino 2y ago
  The number of people working on improving AI is relatively small compared to the number of people reselling OpenAI APIs so I don't expect huge improvements in the next 5-10 years. The real value of AI is in ML, but with human supervision and interpretation of results. GenAI is the worst thing that happened to AI, because its coming rejection will reflect badly on the rest of the advances broadly labelled as AI.

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