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my suggestion: 1. Rent a cheap box at http://hetzner.com http://hetzner.com (32GB RAM/59€ per month; 64GB RAM/109€ per month) or http://OVH.ca/ http://OVH.ca/.

by rmoriz 14y ago

my suggestion: 1. Rent a cheap box at http://hetzner.com http://hetzner.com (32GB RAM/59€ per month; 64GB RAM/109€ per month) or http://OVH.ca/ http://OVH.ca/. 2. Install Proxmox VE 2.0 from http://proxmox.com/products/proxmox-ve http://proxmox.com/products/proxmox-ve Create virtual instances via RESTful API on demand: http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_VE_API http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_VE_API 3. use chef or puppet. => unbeatable price/value and it's up to you if/how you lock into technologies/abstractions/dynos/...

halayli 14y ago
hetzner problem in U.S is latency.
- charliesome 14y ago
  In which case I find Interserver to be a good US host that's just as good and almost as cheap as Hetzner
  - doh 14y ago
    For real? The same HW costs like 8x more.
    - pbrumm 14y ago
      best I found in the US is reliablesite.net http://reliablesite.net/v4/ http://reliablesite.net/v4/ their twitter account has big discounts maybe only 4x more expensive, and they don't charge a monthly fee for a private network.
  - namidark 14y ago
    Interserver is much much more expensive
jlawer 14y ago
Yeah, but for that price your storage is backed by 7200RPM SATA disks... If you need speed it will cost you more for 15K SAS disks w/ a sizable battery backed RAID controller, but it will be worth every cent. You don't want to put too many VMs on them or you'll quickly go through your IO bandwidth. This is the problem so many devs don't understand. You run out of IOPS for your DB and your app is going nowhere. Managing storage in a reliable, fast and cost effective manner isn't easy. Consumer SSDs are starting to change that, but you will be still struggling to find many dedicated server offerings backed with SSD storage, and there are still questions about long term reliability (4 years or so) which is typically the period your leaving hardware provisioned for to pay it off.
- zeeg 14y ago
  I haven't been with my host long enough to give them a reliable review, but they offer SSDs and are definitely budget. You'll have to know precisely what you want/how to configure the machines, but otherwise its perfect. Exactly what oyu'd expect for unmanaged hosting. Incero.com
- Joakal 14y ago
  I'm pretty sure that's why he mentioned RAM. Performance and cost. Flushing is cheap if it's done once in a while.
  - jlawer 14y ago
    RAM buffers work well for large readonly workloads, but write heavy workloads will perform pretty poorly with that kind of configuration. Mind you its all a compromise, if you know that disk IO isn't a factor for your application then servers like that are ideal. I just won't run a large database on it without something like MySQL Cluster using a Memory table. It would require 2 servers, but REALLY good performance, good reliability (just get 2 dual PSU servers in different cabinets).
- rmoriz 14y ago
  You can get SAS disks, raid controller and SSDs for an additional fee but it's still a bargain.
AhtiK 14y ago
From the website I couldn't find if Proxmox VE 2.0 is also available for free. If not free then that step would add a minimum of €119.90/year.
- rmoriz 14y ago
  http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Open_Source http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Open_Source http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Downloads http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Downloads AGPL.

by rmoriz 14y ago

halayli 14y ago

hetzner problem in U.S is latency.

charliesome 14y ago
In which case I find Interserver to be a good US host that's just as good and almost as cheap as Hetzner
- doh 14y ago
  For real? The same HW costs like 8x more.
  - pbrumm 14y ago
    best I found in the US is reliablesite.net http://reliablesite.net/v4/ http://reliablesite.net/v4/ their twitter account has big discounts maybe only 4x more expensive, and they don't charge a monthly fee for a private network.
- namidark 14y ago
  Interserver is much much more expensive

jlawer 14y ago

Yeah, but for that price your storage is backed by 7200RPM SATA disks... If you need speed it will cost you more for 15K SAS disks w/ a sizable battery backed RAID controller, but it will be worth every cent. You don't want to put too many VMs on them or you'll quickly go through your IO bandwidth. This is the problem so many devs don't understand. You run out of IOPS for your DB and your app is going nowhere. Managing storage in a reliable, fast and cost effective manner isn't easy. Consumer SSDs are starting to change that, but you will be still struggling to find many dedicated server offerings backed with SSD storage, and there are still questions about long term reliability (4 years or so) which is typically the period your leaving hardware provisioned for to pay it off.

zeeg 14y ago
I haven't been with my host long enough to give them a reliable review, but they offer SSDs and are definitely budget. You'll have to know precisely what you want/how to configure the machines, but otherwise its perfect. Exactly what oyu'd expect for unmanaged hosting. Incero.com
Joakal 14y ago
I'm pretty sure that's why he mentioned RAM. Performance and cost. Flushing is cheap if it's done once in a while.
- jlawer 14y ago
  RAM buffers work well for large readonly workloads, but write heavy workloads will perform pretty poorly with that kind of configuration. Mind you its all a compromise, if you know that disk IO isn't a factor for your application then servers like that are ideal. I just won't run a large database on it without something like MySQL Cluster using a Memory table. It would require 2 servers, but REALLY good performance, good reliability (just get 2 dual PSU servers in different cabinets).
rmoriz 14y ago
You can get SAS disks, raid controller and SSDs for an additional fee but it's still a bargain.

AhtiK 14y ago

From the website I couldn't find if Proxmox VE 2.0 is also available for free. If not free then that step would add a minimum of €119.90/year.

rmoriz 14y ago
http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Open_Source http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Open_Source http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Downloads http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Downloads AGPL.