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Early in my career — and in my teens — I was doing web design for local businesses. It was the late 90s/early 2000s, and the Internet was taking off, and people
by chipx86 2y ago
Early in my career — and in my teens — I was doing web design for local businesses. It was the late 90s/early 2000s, and the Internet was taking off, and people wanted websites. I have plenty of stories from this era, but today, I'd like to talk about Demmer.
(That's not his name, as I want to preserve anonymity, but it's close.)
Demmer was an old man, retired, and excited by what the Internet could do for him and his organization. They were, he told me, building a state-of-the-art retirement center. And what a retirement center it was. It offered every luxury. Five-star food. Movie theater. Staff tending to your every needs. A better living environment than you'd ever have had pre-retirement. They had Dot Com billionaires investing. It was HUGE!
(Best I could tell, this never existed in any form, sadly. Demmer was the sole representative, and I began to suspect this was more wishful thinking than anything.)
Demmer's ask was simple: Take a document he wrote and put it up on a website. Easy. Shouldn't take long. I billed him up-front for the full cost — a couple of hours of work.
A couple hours that took a month. To send a document. With daily, angry voicemails.
I began to call this lovely interaction the "Daily Demmer."
He'd send an e-mail with the document, and the e-mail would be blank. I'd reply, and he'd respond via voicemail explaining I must have done something wrong. I'd respond with a voicemail of my own, asking what he tried, and that I'd help. He'd get defensive, say he knows how to e-mail! He e-mails all the time!
His voicemails graduated to long, expletive-laden rants within a week.
Finally, I got him to walk me through his attachment process.
Step 1: Open the document.
Step 2: Compose an e-mail to me.
Step 3: Place the document on one side of the screen, the e-mail on the other.
Step 4: Hit send.
"Ah-ha. Well, I'm sure it made sense to him. I can set him straight," I stupidly thought.
I walked him through attaching the document. Find this button, click it. Find your file. Click Attach. He nods along over the phone. "Uh huh. Okay. Got it." Good, good, this is working. "I'm hitting Send."
I received an empty e-mail.
Turns out, he had dug in his heels. He knew e-mail! He sent plenty of e-mails with documents to all the investors. And he did so with the same steps: Place both on the screen, hit Send. I'm just a kid, what do I know?
Rinse and repeat for weeks.
Eventually he drove to town and just angrily handed me a printout.
I got the website up within a couple hours.
He canceled his hosting within a month. I never heard from him again.
- bluefirebrand 2y ago> I'm just a kid, what do I know? It's very funny that we have graduated from "You're just a kid what could you know about computers?" To "Every kid is automatically a computer genius because they grew up with smartphones" And both mentalities are equally mistaken.
- aspenmayer 2y ago> Easy. Shouldn't take long. I billed him up-front for the full cost — a couple of hours of work. As a 10 year+ veteran remote and onsite tech support admin, I have learned from experience to never trust my own or anyone else's estimates or instincts regarding the ease or alacrity of a job sight-unseen. It's Murphy's law in action. Never, ever take payment upfront, and bill by the hour for support unless you have an ongoing support contract with a known-good client. You can always itemize the bill and prorate/discount the bill post-fix if you think it shouldn't cost as much, and you'll avoid a lot of headaches and heartaches as well as reduce strain on business relations. If you accept payment upfront pre-fix, you're in the buyer's remorse business, and your clients' frustrations with their problems will spontaneously become frustrations with you before you even get the chance to fix the root cause, because subconsciously in their minds, they paid good money once for the original failure to launch, and now, no thanks to you, they're somehow on the hook for your failure to immediately if not retroactively pull a rabbit out of a hat over the phone or in person. I repeat - never accept payment upfront - instead, offer free diagnosis/estimates/quotes. Ask me how I know.
- chipx86 2y agoThis was a hard-learned lesson for young me.