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The top dominant comment is the predictable "msm reported x was bad now it's good they don't know anything". What a waste of a thread. Of course msm science re

The top dominant comment is the predictable "msm reported x was bad now it's good they don't know anything". What a waste of a thread. Of course msm science reporting is trash I can get that discussion on a bad reddit thread. Alcohol is a poison, a fairly tolerable one. It's also an addictive drug on social, biochemical, and emotional levels. And likely something that there has been coevolution with humans over the thousands of years it has been ingrained into society. The optimal amount of alcohol is zero, because nutritionally it is completely replaceable with better options, any of the enzyme/relaxation effects are either replaced with no alcohol alternatives or far better done with exercise. The entire thread has pro alcohol compartmentalized thinking hallmarks of addictive patterns: don't say bad things about the precious, dismiss the risks, trump up by 100x fringe studies of alleged health benefit. It's like reading /r/trees on reddit. Now will it kill you from a single shot?no. Is alcohol one of the major millennium spanning means of getting people to procreate, a not insignificant aspect of general societal demographic health? Probably.

rhinoceraptor 2y ago
If you say the optimal amount of is zero, it means you pretty much can't eat any fermented food like kimchi, kombucha, etc. Obviously there's a huge difference between that and an alcoholic beverage, I would agree the optimal amount of alcoholic beverages is likely zero or very close to it.
- AtlasBarfed 2y ago
  You are somewhat correct, but fermented foods have important historical inertia due to their ability to preserve calories and nutrition. Alcoholic beverages are also like this to a lesser degree, but I personally will give a pass to such foods for their institutional importance. Modern refrigeration is a blink in the eye of human history, after all.

rhinoceraptor 2y ago

If you say the optimal amount of is zero, it means you pretty much can't eat any fermented food like kimchi, kombucha, etc. Obviously there's a huge difference between that and an alcoholic beverage, I would agree the optimal amount of alcoholic beverages is likely zero or very close to it.

AtlasBarfed 2y ago
You are somewhat correct, but fermented foods have important historical inertia due to their ability to preserve calories and nutrition. Alcoholic beverages are also like this to a lesser degree, but I personally will give a pass to such foods for their institutional importance. Modern refrigeration is a blink in the eye of human history, after all.