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How a person defines "popular" and "comparable" will be significant here. The examples given above aren't about Teslas, but Teslas are named as examples becaus
by moandcompany 2y ago
How a person defines "popular" and "comparable" will be significant here.
The examples given above aren't about Teslas, but Teslas are named as examples because for many they are often considered defacto synonymous with "EVs" in North America.
Vehicles a person might cross-shop could be considered "comparable" for some, yet not everyone will agree that those vehicles are actually "comparable" (e.g. Tesla Model 3 versus BMW 3-series or similar cars in the BMW 3-series' segment.
Should "comparable" be by specification? Cabin comfort? By product segment? By functional purpose? 0-60 acceleration times? By curb weight?
For alternative definitions of "popular" let's select some of the best-selling (i.e. units sold annually) automotive vehicles in North America. Best-selling 'overall' rather than by "product segment":
* 2024 Toyota RAV4 (3,800lbs / 1,700kg). The spans multiple configurations and trims, from ICE AWD to Hybrid AWD.
* 2024 Honda CRV (3,400-3900lbs / 1550-1,800 kg). This spans multiple configurations and trims, from ICE 2WD/AWD to Hybrid.
* 2024 Ford F150 XLT (5,000lbs / 2,300kg). There are many-many variants of F150 spanning powertrains, cab+bed configurations, trims. The curb weight example listed is for a SuperCrew Cab, 4x4, V6-Ecoboost Engine 6.5-ft bed configuration.
Here's a few more non-Tesla EVs:
* Hyundai Ionic 5 (4,200-4,600lbs / 1,900-2,100kg)
* Volkswagen ID.4 (4,300-4,900lbs / 2,000-2,200kg)
* Chevy Bolt EV/EUV (~3,600lbs / ~1650kg). The Bolt turns out to be an outlier amongst most of the North American EVs, and really better matches the Leaf/i3/ID.3 group of EVs.
* Fiat 500e (2024) (~2950lbs / ~1,350kg). Another outlier, classified as a "minicompact" car.
Generally, the most-common EVs being sold in North America outweigh the most-common ICE or Hybrid EVs being sold in North America. In terms of weight, the most-common EVs, regardless of bodystyle are more comparable to the light to medium duty pickup trucks and SUVs of the last few decades.
* This is interesting too because US States like California and Washington have road wear and maintenance funding issues because their revenue collection system was generally designed through gasoline consumption sales taxes which do not apply to EVs. Additionally, in California regular pickup trucks are classified and taxed, via vehicle registration and weight penalty fees, as commercial vehicles rather than personal vehicles (For individuals, this results in registration fees that are 2x+ the non-commercial rate).
- adamomada 2y agoI recall reading on HN that road wear (and therefore tire wear) is a fourth power of the weight on the axle. So a little bit more is a lot more. Edit: I’m too late, already noted by Sparkle-san below