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We hired a guy like that. Clear deficiency in hiring process. I wasn't in management, but letting the mistake fester won't make it better. Additionally, if some

We hired a guy like that. Clear deficiency in hiring process. I wasn't in management, but letting the mistake fester won't make it better. Additionally, if someone is that "senior" and good at interviewing, but not at thier job, it's unlikely they will come up to speed at a reasoble rate. Thier primary skill is interviewing, they might not be able to learn the skills they need to succeed. Let him go!

bialpio 2y ago
And also change the interviewing process, because clearly it's not testing for the skills that are needed.
WesolyKubeczek 2y ago
I'm wondering if it's possible, given the current job market climate, to spend way too long trying to get a job, in multiple rounds of interviews, and basically pigeonhole oneself into passing the interview but losing other skills that are pertinent to performing and keeping the job. The stories I keep hearing, about companies ghosting the applicant after 5-6 exhausting rounds of interviews, are scaring me, to be frank. It feels like the companies are optimizing towards not hiring as much as possible, and it's very tempting to optimize for passing the interview and make it into the primary skill...
- hypeatei 2y ago
  IMO, you don't lose a good engineering mindset or skills within a year or few months. Rusty, sure, but I'd say those skills quickly start to sharpen after working at a new job for a couple months.
  - WesolyKubeczek 2y ago
    > those skills quickly start to sharpen after working at a new job for a couple months. Given the comments here, you don't have the couple months to unrust your skills. You will be deemed unfit after the first one and fired, the prevailing sentiment seems to be.
    - hypeatei 2y ago
      Yeah, it's hard because sometimes you just know that it isn't going to work and others you can see promising signs. It's all very situational.
- whatsakandr 2y ago
  My experience with hiring is it's better to error on the side of not hiring. If you make a bad choice, unless it's a flagrant fraud, you're going to spend a couple of months trying to get them to be productive. That's way more time then doing a couple more interview. And firing is risky from a legal standpoint as well.

bialpio 2y ago

And also change the interviewing process, because clearly it's not testing for the skills that are needed.

WesolyKubeczek 2y ago

I'm wondering if it's possible, given the current job market climate, to spend way too long trying to get a job, in multiple rounds of interviews, and basically pigeonhole oneself into passing the interview but losing other skills that are pertinent to performing and keeping the job. The stories I keep hearing, about companies ghosting the applicant after 5-6 exhausting rounds of interviews, are scaring me, to be frank. It feels like the companies are optimizing towards not hiring as much as possible, and it's very tempting to optimize for passing the interview and make it into the primary skill...

hypeatei 2y ago
IMO, you don't lose a good engineering mindset or skills within a year or few months. Rusty, sure, but I'd say those skills quickly start to sharpen after working at a new job for a couple months.
- WesolyKubeczek 2y ago
  > those skills quickly start to sharpen after working at a new job for a couple months. Given the comments here, you don't have the couple months to unrust your skills. You will be deemed unfit after the first one and fired, the prevailing sentiment seems to be.
  - hypeatei 2y ago
    Yeah, it's hard because sometimes you just know that it isn't going to work and others you can see promising signs. It's all very situational.
whatsakandr 2y ago
My experience with hiring is it's better to error on the side of not hiring. If you make a bad choice, unless it's a flagrant fraud, you're going to spend a couple of months trying to get them to be productive. That's way more time then doing a couple more interview. And firing is risky from a legal standpoint as well.