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Define operations, because that sounds like a loophole that basically allows you to use it for anything

connicpu 2y ago
Basically the only thing you can't do with the data is disclose it to someone who doesn't also fall under HIPAA
Spooky23 2y ago
HIPPA protects you against gossipy staff. Beyond that, it’s mostly smoke - entire industries are built on loopholes. Pre-HIPPA, the hospital would tell a news reporter about your status. Now, drug marketing companies know about your prescriptions before your pharmacy does.
- specialist 2y ago
  Mid aughts, we devs sat in the meetings discussing how to enable this. With teams from Google Health, Microsoft Health Vault, some pharmas. In attendance were marketing, biz dev, execs. Ours and theres. But no legal. Hmmm. And it would have worked if it weren't for those meddling teenagers. From your comment, I'm inferring they're now allowed to use health records for marketing.
  - Spooky23 2y ago
    My wife about 9 years ago was admitted to the hospital for a ruptured ectopic pregnancy. The baby would have been about two months along. On the would-be due date, a box arrived via FedEx of Enfamil samples and a chirpy “welcome baby” message. Of course there was no baby. It turns out that using prescription data, admission data and other information that is aggregated as part of subrogation and other processes, you can partially de-anonymize/rebuild / health record and make an inference. Enfamil told me what list they used and I bought it, it contained a bunch of information including my wife’s. I also know everyone in my zip code who had diabetes in 2015. There’s even more intrusive stuff around opioid surveillance.
    - specialist 2y ago
      I'm sorry for your loss. Shit. > Emfamil samples... Insult to injury. They're all just ghouls. Profitting from other people's pain. > what list they used Who watches the watchers? Nobody. We had an instance of Lexis/Nexus' (formerly Seisent) demographic database to play with. Most people just can't wrap their heads around how bad things were in the mid-aughts. I was called a "sweaty paranoid kook" by our local paper for simply describing how things worked (no opinion or predictions). Oh well. Maybe society has started to recognize what's happened. Thanks for reading my rant. Peace.
    - notjulianjaynes 2y ago
      >There’s even more intrusive stuff around opioid surveillance. Can you please explain more about this or point me towards a source?

Basically the only thing you can't do with the data is disclose it to someone who doesn't also fall under HIPAA

HIPPA protects you against gossipy staff. Beyond that, it’s mostly smoke - entire industries are built on loopholes. Pre-HIPPA, the hospital would tell a news reporter about your status. Now, drug marketing companies know about your prescriptions before your pharmacy does.

specialist 2y ago
Mid aughts, we devs sat in the meetings discussing how to enable this. With teams from Google Health, Microsoft Health Vault, some pharmas. In attendance were marketing, biz dev, execs. Ours and theres. But no legal. Hmmm. And it would have worked if it weren't for those meddling teenagers. From your comment, I'm inferring they're now allowed to use health records for marketing.
- Spooky23 2y ago
  My wife about 9 years ago was admitted to the hospital for a ruptured ectopic pregnancy. The baby would have been about two months along. On the would-be due date, a box arrived via FedEx of Enfamil samples and a chirpy “welcome baby” message. Of course there was no baby. It turns out that using prescription data, admission data and other information that is aggregated as part of subrogation and other processes, you can partially de-anonymize/rebuild / health record and make an inference. Enfamil told me what list they used and I bought it, it contained a bunch of information including my wife’s. I also know everyone in my zip code who had diabetes in 2015. There’s even more intrusive stuff around opioid surveillance.
  - specialist 2y ago
    I'm sorry for your loss. Shit. > Emfamil samples... Insult to injury. They're all just ghouls. Profitting from other people's pain. > what list they used Who watches the watchers? Nobody. We had an instance of Lexis/Nexus' (formerly Seisent) demographic database to play with. Most people just can't wrap their heads around how bad things were in the mid-aughts. I was called a "sweaty paranoid kook" by our local paper for simply describing how things worked (no opinion or predictions). Oh well. Maybe society has started to recognize what's happened. Thanks for reading my rant. Peace.
  - notjulianjaynes 2y ago
    >There’s even more intrusive stuff around opioid surveillance. Can you please explain more about this or point me towards a source?