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You're not counting in the tulip industry, which googling returns a whooping 10% of the GDP.

by xandrius 2y ago

arlort 2y ago
Flowers + greenhouses is still barely 1.5%
Tade0 2y ago
Still, why is one of the most densely populated countries in the EU designating so much of its land to agriculture?
- snapplebobapple 2y ago
  A better question is why is any government anywhere designating any of its land for anything? Leave land use as broadly defined as possible (ie you want some regulation to stop a steel smelter or high density pork barn operation in high density residential, but not much regulation beyond that type of thing) and get out of the way. Stop subsidizing everybody while you are at it too (defined as a tax code with almost no carve outs that broadly applies to all business equally) and if farming is a bad idea it will go away on its own.
- xandrius 2y ago
  Maybe they don't want to fully give up that part of their industries. Also cheesemaking is big in the Netherlands, so I wouldn't be surprised that lots of it is for feeding cattle.
  - difosfor 2y ago
    Pretty much all of the food for our cattle is imported, I.e soy from Brasil etc. Capitalism combined with a lack of environmental taxes results in some crazy wasteful situations like this. It also results in the related cattle food etc industries subsidizing political parties and thus manipulating our government to let it keep on going and duck any responsibilities, like we have to the EU, that would risk stopping it.
    - hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
      That's crazy but makes sense too. When I biked from Amsterdam to Antwerp in ~2014, it was difficult to not run into a village every few km. I guess there's no cheap enough real estate left to grow the massive amounts of soy, cow corn, and hay to feed the animals. Since it's such a huge source of climate change GHGs, pandemics, antibiotic resistance, and air, water, and soil pollution, perhaps globally we need to scale back dairy and meat agriculture.

You're not counting in the tulip industry, which googling returns a whooping 10% of the GDP.

arlort 2y ago

Flowers + greenhouses is still barely 1.5%

Tade0 2y ago

Still, why is one of the most densely populated countries in the EU designating so much of its land to agriculture?

snapplebobapple 2y ago
A better question is why is any government anywhere designating any of its land for anything? Leave land use as broadly defined as possible (ie you want some regulation to stop a steel smelter or high density pork barn operation in high density residential, but not much regulation beyond that type of thing) and get out of the way. Stop subsidizing everybody while you are at it too (defined as a tax code with almost no carve outs that broadly applies to all business equally) and if farming is a bad idea it will go away on its own.
xandrius 2y ago
Maybe they don't want to fully give up that part of their industries. Also cheesemaking is big in the Netherlands, so I wouldn't be surprised that lots of it is for feeding cattle.
- difosfor 2y ago
  Pretty much all of the food for our cattle is imported, I.e soy from Brasil etc. Capitalism combined with a lack of environmental taxes results in some crazy wasteful situations like this. It also results in the related cattle food etc industries subsidizing political parties and thus manipulating our government to let it keep on going and duck any responsibilities, like we have to the EU, that would risk stopping it.
  - hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
    That's crazy but makes sense too. When I biked from Amsterdam to Antwerp in ~2014, it was difficult to not run into a village every few km. I guess there's no cheap enough real estate left to grow the massive amounts of soy, cow corn, and hay to feed the animals. Since it's such a huge source of climate change GHGs, pandemics, antibiotic resistance, and air, water, and soil pollution, perhaps globally we need to scale back dairy and meat agriculture.