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Appears that OP, a former Replit intern, used Replit to create a site that might be construed as a Replit competitor. Replit responded with a heavy hand. I don

by tomcam 2y ago

Appears that OP, a former Replit intern, used Replit to create a site that might be construed as a Replit competitor. Replit responded with a heavy hand. I don’t care about Replit. But this just seems like a bad idea.

ak_111 2y ago
Tbf Replit is an online IDE for full stack development, that means that almost any idea you work on Saas dev tooling could be construed as a competitor.
- throwaway290 2y ago
  Yes so you should keep that in mind if you sign documents specifically agreeing not to do this in the next 2 years... we may never know what the guy signed, but I assume interns at least sign NDAs. The fact that CEO is a (insert bad word) is also true, however.
  - remram 2y ago
    We're now making INTERNS sign non-compete agreements??!
  - bitnasty 2y ago
    If NDAs were breached, that DEFINITELY would have been brought up in all of this.
    - throwaway290 2y ago
      True...
  - Zak 2y ago
    Noncompetes are illegal in California where Replit is based. As far as I can tell, they were illegal in 2021, and they've become more illegal since.
    - throwaway290 2y ago
      That's nice. I wish more places worldwide followed. My contract has a noncompete:(
      - c0wb0yc0d3r 2y ago
        Earlier this year the FTC banned noncompetes in the USA. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/ftc-announces-rule-banning-noncompetes https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/...
      - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
        I have excellent news: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/ftc-announces-rule-banning-noncompetes https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/...
        throwaway290 2y ago
        Nice, now I only need to move to the US.
michaelmrose 2y ago
It doesn't matter if he used replit they don't own the code you write with it and it doesn't matter if he used to work there they don't own former employees either. If you remove the irrelevant details it can be shortened to A personal created what could be construed as a replit competitor this seemed like a bad idea which only makes sense if it's a bar owned by the mafia. Furthermore they didn't respond "with a heavy hand" This statement carries the implication that some reaction was warranted and they overdid it. A manipulative sociopath reacted to a non-issue by using insane threats to silence someone on the off chance that he might become a legitimate competitor. Did you catch the part where he made it about him him growing up a "struggling kid from Jordan" whist still essentially asserting most of the same position. https://intuitiveexplanations.com/assets/amjad-hn-1.png https://intuitiveexplanations.com/assets/amjad-hn-1.png This is basically a narcissist simulating a normal person territory. It's basically saying sorry you made the projected economic cost of my bad behavior negative I'm going to save face here.
- II2II 2y ago
  Once you create a product/project that is in some ways similar to that of a former employer, you have entered potential conflict-of-interest territory. If you can afford the time and legal expenses to argue that it is not a conflict of interest, that's fine. If you cannot, then you should think twice about what you are doing. Should it be that way? The answer is a definitive maybe. Part of the reason why the legal system exists is to resolve disputes like this. The real problem is the cost and time involved make it mean that both parties rarely have equal access to it, and that it is often used as a heavy handed threat by those who know they have better access to it (with the end result being to silence people rather than seek a just resolution). As for the personalities of the parties involved, that has nothing to do with it. You can be the biggest jerk in the world and be right, or the kindest person in the world and be wrong.
  - _factor 2y ago
    If a former employee of mine uses proprietary information to build a competitor, I’d be upset. The key is what is classed as proprietary. You start barking up the software patent tree and you never know what the lawyers will throw back down.

by tomcam 2y ago

ak_111 2y ago

Tbf Replit is an online IDE for full stack development, that means that almost any idea you work on Saas dev tooling could be construed as a competitor.

throwaway290 2y ago
Yes so you should keep that in mind if you sign documents specifically agreeing not to do this in the next 2 years... we may never know what the guy signed, but I assume interns at least sign NDAs. The fact that CEO is a (insert bad word) is also true, however.
- remram 2y ago
  We're now making INTERNS sign non-compete agreements??!
- bitnasty 2y ago
  If NDAs were breached, that DEFINITELY would have been brought up in all of this.
  - throwaway290 2y ago
    True...
- Zak 2y ago
  Noncompetes are illegal in California where Replit is based. As far as I can tell, they were illegal in 2021, and they've become more illegal since.
  - throwaway290 2y ago
    That's nice. I wish more places worldwide followed. My contract has a noncompete:(
    - c0wb0yc0d3r 2y ago
      Earlier this year the FTC banned noncompetes in the USA. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/ftc-announces-rule-banning-noncompetes https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/...
    - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
      I have excellent news: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/ftc-announces-rule-banning-noncompetes https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/...
      - throwaway290 2y ago
        Nice, now I only need to move to the US.

michaelmrose 2y ago

It doesn't matter if he used replit they don't own the code you write with it and it doesn't matter if he used to work there they don't own former employees either. If you remove the irrelevant details it can be shortened to A personal created what could be construed as a replit competitor this seemed like a bad idea which only makes sense if it's a bar owned by the mafia. Furthermore they didn't respond "with a heavy hand" This statement carries the implication that some reaction was warranted and they overdid it. A manipulative sociopath reacted to a non-issue by using insane threats to silence someone on the off chance that he might become a legitimate competitor. Did you catch the part where he made it about him him growing up a "struggling kid from Jordan" whist still essentially asserting most of the same position. https://intuitiveexplanations.com/assets/amjad-hn-1.png https://intuitiveexplanations.com/assets/amjad-hn-1.png This is basically a narcissist simulating a normal person territory. It's basically saying sorry you made the projected economic cost of my bad behavior negative I'm going to save face here.

II2II 2y ago
Once you create a product/project that is in some ways similar to that of a former employer, you have entered potential conflict-of-interest territory. If you can afford the time and legal expenses to argue that it is not a conflict of interest, that's fine. If you cannot, then you should think twice about what you are doing. Should it be that way? The answer is a definitive maybe. Part of the reason why the legal system exists is to resolve disputes like this. The real problem is the cost and time involved make it mean that both parties rarely have equal access to it, and that it is often used as a heavy handed threat by those who know they have better access to it (with the end result being to silence people rather than seek a just resolution). As for the personalities of the parties involved, that has nothing to do with it. You can be the biggest jerk in the world and be right, or the kindest person in the world and be wrong.
- _factor 2y ago
  If a former employee of mine uses proprietary information to build a competitor, I’d be upset. The key is what is classed as proprietary. You start barking up the software patent tree and you never know what the lawyers will throw back down.