If you don't understand my comment on the energy perspective you shouldn't comment on the topic. > What ship?!? Labs, medical facilities wtf r u smoking. The

If you don't understand my comment on the energy perspective you shouldn't comment on the topic. > What ship?!? Labs, medical facilities wtf r u smoking. The Starship. SpaceX is currently building an interior for the Moon Lander together with NASA that will have those things. For a small crew its totally possible to have this. Not sure what to tell you. > And why dont you mention how many fueling launches you need to go to the moon in an essentially 'space liferaft' vs an actual spaceship needed to get to mars?? hm? I don't even know what the fuck you are trying to say ... Yes, it needs to be refuelled a number of time. So what?? hm? Falcon 9 is literally launching every 5 days right now and it wasn't even designed with rapid reuse in mind. > How? Just how is that infrastructure going to get there deploy itself and... it boggles my mind how you handwave the solutions to colonising a fucking planet. I don't know why haters like you are so hung up with colonising. Colonising starts small. The solutions in the beginning wont be the solutions 50-100 years later. So criticising the current architecture with 'it can't do colonisation' is fucking stupid. Thanks captain obvious. In the beginning its about establishing a research base that can be continously inhabited. If that can be achieved its fucking fantastic. And from there it grows or it doesn't. And in terms of how. There are these things called wheels.... There are plenty of designs around for different aspects of the architecture. You haven't addressed any of them. > Sure mate, you played minecraft and all you need is a crafting table on mars and whabang infrastructure poof icewater mining and puryfing faclities "shazam* and your farm is ready! So easy, who thought. Those things would be built on earth. So your comment doesn't even fucking make sense. Its not easy to do these things but you have not made any actual argument that its not possible or harder then other parts. Building the Raptor engine is hard, a lot harder then a device that takes oxygen out of the atmosphere. Building a device to collect water is hard, but a hell of a lot easier then building Starship. You argument is basically just asserting things you don't know much about and then making childish insults. Its funny how there are 10000s of really smart scientist and engineers that are working on different aspects of these problems and they all believe they can be overcome. But I am sure you are just so much smarter and more enlightened then all those people. Go stand in front off a mirror and pat yourself on the back buddy. > Who is going to pay for all of it, and why would you do it in a first place? Cuz you are not setting up a colony, you are setting up the most expensive treehouse. That's fantastic. I didn't know you were that optimistic. A continuously inhabited house on Mars would be absolutely fucking amazing. One might even say its a colony. Because, guess what, that's how colonies started. Glad I could convince you.