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"Right, but the idea here seems to be to throw cold water on idea that Ukraine is unambiguously the victim of aggression here" Yes, that is Putins plan. That d
by lukan 2y ago
"Right, but the idea here seems to be to throw cold water on idea that Ukraine is unambiguously the victim of aggression here"
Yes, that is Putins plan. That doesn't mean there isn't any truth in its propaganda.
The point we are discussing is, if the war Ukraine vs Russia is "as black and white as it gets". To which I disagree, you can find quite some black elements in Ukraine, too. Not at all on the same level and I support weapon delivery etc. But I do not support closing my eyes to only see everything in simple shapes and colors.
- baybal2 2y ago[dead]
- macintux 2y agoRussia is raping and slaughtering its way through a country that did not invade it, was not threatening its neighbors, whose primary crime was being too friendly with the West. Why does it matter whether all Ukrainian citizens are angels or devils?
- lukan 2y ago"Why does it matter whether all Ukrainian citizens are angels or devils?" Because people who are devils and who are officially allowed to have weapons and use them sometimes has bad side effects.