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> “Local authorities know that if someone asks to be registered on a fictitious street, it’s almost always going to be a person who needs social help,” explains
by karaterobot 2y ago
> “Local authorities know that if someone asks to be registered on a fictitious street, it’s almost always going to be a person who needs social help,” explains Minardi. “They’re worried that this person will be an excessive burden on the town budget.”
> As soon as someone asks an Italian town to be registered on a via fittizia, that town is legally obliged to create one...
I assumed the purpose of this workaround was to provide accurate population numbers to the national government, who would then provide funding for services based on how many people actually needed them.
If that's true, I don't see the advantage to the city in blocking homeless or itinerant people from registering.
If that's false—for example, if no money trickles down to the city level based on population—then why legally require cities to create these fictional streets in the first place?
It may be a requirement without corresponding support. That's certainly a possibility. But it's confusing to me without clarification. It's easy to speculate, but I'd love an authoritative answer.
- situationista 2y agoThe services in question are provided by the local municipality - and they don’t receive extra government funding for this. So unlike a regular citizen who registers on a real street, from whom the city typically collects taxes, a homeless citizen brings costs without bringing many “benefits” (from a purely economic perspective). As for why they mandate the creation of these fictitious streets, it’s because Italy’s administrative system is obsessed with linking people to an address in a way that is absolutely alien to many foreigners. When you change address the police literally come round to check you actually live there…
- pulisse 2y agoItaly's not unique in that respect, in Europe at least. You can't do much in Germany without a Meldebescheingung.
- immibis 2y agoBut in Germany you need an actual address. If you are homeless, you almost legally don't exist. You are prohibited from opening a bank account, for example, or having a job, because you do not exist.
- echoangle 2y agoYou’re wrong, you have a legal right to a bank account (Basiskonto) if you live in the EU, even if you don’t have a fixed address. The bank literally can’t deny you ( https://www.bafin.de/DE/Verbraucher/Bank/Produkte/Basiskonto/basiskonto_artikel.html https://www.bafin.de/DE/Verbraucher/Bank/Produkte/Basiskonto... ). You need to give them an address to send mail to, but that can be any address where you can get access to the mail (friends, family, homeless shelter…). Do you have a source for the claim?
- riffraff 2y agoin Hungary you also can't do anything with a lakcimkartya (=~ address card). The only difference with Italy is that it's a separate document from the ID card.
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