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This is nothing. An abusive spouse will easily switch it to on. It's very likely Windows will downright push you to do so anyways. How does Microsoft intend t

by chx 2y ago

This is nothing. An abusive spouse will easily switch it to on. It's very likely Windows will downright push you to do so anyways. How does Microsoft intend to mitigate that harm? Because AirTags worked out just fine: > AirTags have been a tool for stalkers and domestic abusers since Apple launched them in 2021. Police records show that this is a problem, and the legal system has failed women who were targeted by stalkers using AirTags. There have been several instances where AirTag stalking has turned violent, and in at least two cases, resulted in the tracker murdering their target. https://www.404media.co/email/ce4cec4d-51c3-4101-b2b4-2c9a64aee5e8/ https://www.404media.co/email/ce4cec4d-51c3-4101-b2b4-2c9a64... How many women will beaten and murdered because of Recall? Why is it that Microsoft reacts to software security concerns but not to the concerns of women?

bigstrat2003 2y ago
This is sheer moral panic. Of course tools can be misused by bad people, but that doesn't make it the tool's fault ("how many women will be beaten and murdered because of Recall"). It is the fault of the person misusing the tool to do bad things.
- pessimizer 2y ago
  Thank god. I've been selling front door locks that don't actually work, and I'm glad that when people are robbed, it will be the criminal's fault, not mine. Instead of me selling locks that work, what needs to be done first is that all potential criminals should be made not to be criminals.
- chx 2y ago
  Yes, much as airtag was sheer moral panic. Techbros never admit their myopic view.
skazazes 2y ago
Knowing you could turn on recall to spy in this way implies an individual with the technical know how to grab a freeware keylogger anyways. Similarly with airtags, you have been able to buy cheaper cellular based GPS trackers for years prior to airtags existing. In the airtag case, those GPS tags also do not alert the individual that there is a beacon following their person, and as such most likely go unnoticed and under reported.
- pessimizer 2y ago
  > Knowing you could turn on recall to spy in this way implies an individual with the technical know how to grab a freeware keylogger anyways. Strange that you were able to discover this. Has anyone asked you for your research? Does knowing how to grab a freeware keylogger imply that you know how to code up a keylogger for yourself, or did your study not go that far?
- chx 2y ago
  There is a massive difference between switching on your new laptop and having a flaming big "look how cool recall is, do you want to switch it on? No? Are you sure" versus finding recall.ai or openrecall. It is much the same with airtag.
cynicalsecurity 2y ago
You are trying to appeal to morally corrupt people. Instead you should hurt their business. Ditch Windows, switch to open source solutions, do not but their product and services. This is the only language they understand.

by chx 2y ago

bigstrat2003 2y ago

This is sheer moral panic. Of course tools can be misused by bad people, but that doesn't make it the tool's fault ("how many women will be beaten and murdered because of Recall"). It is the fault of the person misusing the tool to do bad things.

pessimizer 2y ago
Thank god. I've been selling front door locks that don't actually work, and I'm glad that when people are robbed, it will be the criminal's fault, not mine. Instead of me selling locks that work, what needs to be done first is that all potential criminals should be made not to be criminals.
chx 2y ago
Yes, much as airtag was sheer moral panic. Techbros never admit their myopic view.

skazazes 2y ago

Knowing you could turn on recall to spy in this way implies an individual with the technical know how to grab a freeware keylogger anyways. Similarly with airtags, you have been able to buy cheaper cellular based GPS trackers for years prior to airtags existing. In the airtag case, those GPS tags also do not alert the individual that there is a beacon following their person, and as such most likely go unnoticed and under reported.

pessimizer 2y ago
> Knowing you could turn on recall to spy in this way implies an individual with the technical know how to grab a freeware keylogger anyways. Strange that you were able to discover this. Has anyone asked you for your research? Does knowing how to grab a freeware keylogger imply that you know how to code up a keylogger for yourself, or did your study not go that far?
chx 2y ago
There is a massive difference between switching on your new laptop and having a flaming big "look how cool recall is, do you want to switch it on? No? Are you sure" versus finding recall.ai or openrecall. It is much the same with airtag.

cynicalsecurity 2y ago

You are trying to appeal to morally corrupt people. Instead you should hurt their business. Ditch Windows, switch to open source solutions, do not but their product and services. This is the only language they understand.