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JS aside, there's virtually a 0% chance Teams would be in C++. It'd be in a non-native language, like C#. JavaScript is faster than you think. Miles ahead of

JS aside, there's virtually a 0% chance Teams would be in C++. It'd be in a non-native language, like C#. JavaScript is faster than you think. Miles ahead of Python, Ruby, Perl, PHP. Not too different than C#/Java (especially if you consider 2x to be effectively the same) [1]. [1] https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/ https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/

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lelanthran 2y ago
> It'd be in a non-native language, like C#. True; C# is the most obvious choice for Teams. > JavaScript is faster than you think. I'd be very surprised. > Miles ahead of Python, Ruby, Perl, PHP. Depends on "miles" - I think it is within the same order of magnitude as all of those. If it's far off from being in the same order of magnitude of those, I'd be very surprised. > Not too different than C#/Java I don't think so, not for idiomatic usages anyway. Java and C# are pretty damn fast! ISTR that Java/C#/Go are in a different order of magnitude from JS, Python, PHP, etc. (The link doesn't work, btw)
- paulddraper 2y ago
  JavaScript (V8) is well over an order of magnitude faster than Python (CPython). https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/python3-node.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... And Java/C# is nowhere even close to an order of magnitude faster than JS. https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/java-node.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
  - neonsunset 2y ago
    There is no direct comparison vs JS but C# is much[0] more capable than Java at number crunching tasks because of its low-level features. The better showcase would be complex application code where JS cannot keep up with .NET or JVM no matter how much you optimize V8 due to dynamic typing and even simplest operations like property access needing inline caching and guards. [0]: https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/csharp.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
    - igouy 2y ago
      https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/node-csharpcore.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... déjà vu all over again (Or would C# aot and GraalVM be more to the point?)
- igouy 2y ago
  The other links do work. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40612347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40612347
igouy 2y ago
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lelanthran 2y ago

> It'd be in a non-native language, like C#. True; C# is the most obvious choice for Teams. > JavaScript is faster than you think. I'd be very surprised. > Miles ahead of Python, Ruby, Perl, PHP. Depends on "miles" - I think it is within the same order of magnitude as all of those. If it's far off from being in the same order of magnitude of those, I'd be very surprised. > Not too different than C#/Java I don't think so, not for idiomatic usages anyway. Java and C# are pretty damn fast! ISTR that Java/C#/Go are in a different order of magnitude from JS, Python, PHP, etc. (The link doesn't work, btw)

paulddraper 2y ago
JavaScript (V8) is well over an order of magnitude faster than Python (CPython). https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/python3-node.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... And Java/C# is nowhere even close to an order of magnitude faster than JS. https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/java-node.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
- neonsunset 2y ago
  There is no direct comparison vs JS but C# is much[0] more capable than Java at number crunching tasks because of its low-level features. The better showcase would be complex application code where JS cannot keep up with .NET or JVM no matter how much you optimize V8 due to dynamic typing and even simplest operations like property access needing inline caching and guards. [0]: https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/csharp.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
  - igouy 2y ago
    https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/node-csharpcore.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... déjà vu all over again (Or would C# aot and GraalVM be more to the point?)
igouy 2y ago
The other links do work. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40612347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40612347

igouy 2y ago

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