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Then they'll enable it by default once people forget

by vinyl7 2y ago

aeurielesn 2y ago
Doubting they'll even disable it at all.
- nerdjon 2y ago
  It’s one thing to be critical of the feature. But this is a pretty cut and dry announcement. There isn’t any ambiguity they could stand behind if they are lying. I would fully expect it will be disabled by default (for now)
  - Citizen_Lame 2y ago
    [flagged]
  - bonton89 2y ago
    They'll just say it is a bug when it is turned on.
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wongarsu 2y ago
People will opt-in to it during setup the same way people opt-in to logging in via a Microsoft account instead of a local account.
- cybrox 2y ago
  Local accounts are almost impossible to set up for the normal user in win11
  - nerdjon 2y ago
    It is pretty easy now if you use Rufus to create your installation usb. It will prompt you (and select by default) to disable the need for an online account. I installed the Pro version and then just said I was setting it up for work or school, chose domain and then I set it up just fine as a local account. I don't know for sure how much of this is rufas or the pro version. But I just installed Windows 11 within the last hour.
    - g15jv2dp 2y ago
      > normal user > use Rufus to create your installation usb Pick one. "Normal" users don't use specialized software to create installation media. They boot the laptop with the OS already installed and go on from there.
      - nerdjon 2y ago
        I mostly agree, but installing Windows is not as daunting of a task as it used to be. It is also not uncommon for 'normal' gamers to use a custom built PC which would require installing Windows. Maybe normal is the wrong word, but it would be a pretty quick and easy to understand guide to do this.
        jachee 2y ago
        Normal gamers aren’t representative of normal users on a whole. Gamers are just a tiny fraction of the overall user base. Normal users buy cheap-ass laptops with their manufacturers’ opinionated Windows installation, including boatloads of bloatware. And they don’t ever change any of the defaults.
    - hobo_in_library 2y ago
      > if you use Rufus to create your installation usb. You've already scared away all the normal users
  - ngneer 2y ago
    Normal user, agreed. You can find tutorials online, though, for those of us who still remember that the PC was something the user used to own.
LegitShady 2y ago
"game pass is only available with Recall enabled!" "microsoft office features y and j require Recall! please click here to enable it" etc etc

Then they'll enable it by default once people forget

by vinyl7 2y ago

Then they'll enable it by default once people forget

aeurielesn 2y ago

Doubting they'll even disable it at all.

nerdjon 2y ago
It’s one thing to be critical of the feature. But this is a pretty cut and dry announcement. There isn’t any ambiguity they could stand behind if they are lying. I would fully expect it will be disabled by default (for now)
- Citizen_Lame 2y ago
  [flagged]
- bonton89 2y ago
  They'll just say it is a bug when it is turned on.

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wongarsu 2y ago

People will opt-in to it during setup the same way people opt-in to logging in via a Microsoft account instead of a local account.

cybrox 2y ago
Local accounts are almost impossible to set up for the normal user in win11
- nerdjon 2y ago
  It is pretty easy now if you use Rufus to create your installation usb. It will prompt you (and select by default) to disable the need for an online account. I installed the Pro version and then just said I was setting it up for work or school, chose domain and then I set it up just fine as a local account. I don't know for sure how much of this is rufas or the pro version. But I just installed Windows 11 within the last hour.
  - g15jv2dp 2y ago
    > normal user > use Rufus to create your installation usb Pick one. "Normal" users don't use specialized software to create installation media. They boot the laptop with the OS already installed and go on from there.
    - nerdjon 2y ago
      I mostly agree, but installing Windows is not as daunting of a task as it used to be. It is also not uncommon for 'normal' gamers to use a custom built PC which would require installing Windows. Maybe normal is the wrong word, but it would be a pretty quick and easy to understand guide to do this.
      - jachee 2y ago
        Normal gamers aren’t representative of normal users on a whole. Gamers are just a tiny fraction of the overall user base. Normal users buy cheap-ass laptops with their manufacturers’ opinionated Windows installation, including boatloads of bloatware. And they don’t ever change any of the defaults.
  - hobo_in_library 2y ago
    > if you use Rufus to create your installation usb. You've already scared away all the normal users
- ngneer 2y ago
  Normal user, agreed. You can find tutorials online, though, for those of us who still remember that the PC was something the user used to own.

LegitShady 2y ago

"game pass is only available with Recall enabled!" "microsoft office features y and j require Recall! please click here to enable it" etc etc