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> YouTube videos are not very difficult to edit. And academic papers are not difficult to fudge up with edited fraudulent data [1]. Even Ivy League colleges a

> YouTube videos are not very difficult to edit. And academic papers are not difficult to fudge up with edited fraudulent data [1]. Even Ivy League colleges are committing rampant fraud sometimes for activism sometimes just to get attention and get more papers published. It’s sad that we’re at a time where academia is as untrustworthy as random videos on YouTube. But i agree with noiseless windmills part, they should be promoted more instead of noisy ones that will discourage more clean energy initiatives. [1](https://retractionwatch.com/ https://retractionwatch.com/)

bee_rider 2y ago
I mean, nobody would say the academic publishing ecosystem is super healthy (every academic hates it, for one). But the existence of something like “retraction watch” points to the fact that these aren’t really comparable ecosystems. Nobody need bothers to catalogue the lies on YouTube because that’s an impossible and pointless task. The academic process has always been messy and political, and yet universities do keep churning out research and students.
- teitoklien 2y ago
  > The academic process has always been messy and political, and yet universities do keep churning out research and students. The youtube process has always been messy and political, and yet new creators do keep churning out great content that people love watching and spreading awareness about various issues. :) The youtube show : “Undecided by Matt Ferrell” is my favourite
  - ben_w 2y ago
    Lotta clickbait, too. They need it to keep earning, even if they don't like it. I recall Tom Scott saying there was one video he basically couldn't make, because the climax was switching on a big light, which was actually silent, but it felt wrong unless he dubbed a sound over that and such dubbing was against his editorial standard.
    - bee_rider 2y ago
      That’s interesting. Without knowing what the switch was, I guess it is hard to say, but a switch that kicked off some big process silently seems like it could be really dramatic and cool.

bee_rider 2y ago

I mean, nobody would say the academic publishing ecosystem is super healthy (every academic hates it, for one). But the existence of something like “retraction watch” points to the fact that these aren’t really comparable ecosystems. Nobody need bothers to catalogue the lies on YouTube because that’s an impossible and pointless task. The academic process has always been messy and political, and yet universities do keep churning out research and students.

teitoklien 2y ago
> The academic process has always been messy and political, and yet universities do keep churning out research and students. The youtube process has always been messy and political, and yet new creators do keep churning out great content that people love watching and spreading awareness about various issues. :) The youtube show : “Undecided by Matt Ferrell” is my favourite
- ben_w 2y ago
  Lotta clickbait, too. They need it to keep earning, even if they don't like it. I recall Tom Scott saying there was one video he basically couldn't make, because the climax was switching on a big light, which was actually silent, but it felt wrong unless he dubbed a sound over that and such dubbing was against his editorial standard.
  - bee_rider 2y ago
    That’s interesting. Without knowing what the switch was, I guess it is hard to say, but a switch that kicked off some big process silently seems like it could be really dramatic and cool.