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I've seen this with restaurant wait staff as well. The issue in that particular case was that someone orders a steak and a bunch of other things. Then claims

I've seen this with restaurant wait staff as well. The issue in that particular case was that someone orders a steak and a bunch of other things. Then claims to have never ordered a steak, therefore refusing to pay for it.

noodlesUK 2y ago
I'm shocked by this comment. Where is expensive enough that it will have steaks that it can't just write off, but isn't so nice that waiters with bodycams don't mess up the ambiance?
- Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
  Contrary to popular belief, a tax write-off doesn't make it free for the business. Since the steak was already purchased as a business expense, it was probably written off already anyways.
  - noodlesUK 2y ago
    I didn't mean write-off from a tax perspective, I meant it in the colloquial sense of eating the cost. Most restaurants are able to absorb the cost of a few mistakes without it impacting their bottom line horribly. I've only ever seen someone dine and dash once or twice ever in my life, but I've seen restaurants fix mistaken orders plenty of times. It seems like body cams on servers is a huge overreaction.
verteu 2y ago
Are you referring to this staged skit? http://youtube.com/shorts/fkrtbDJTGGs http://youtube.com/shorts/fkrtbDJTGGs
- Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
  While that's obviously staged as an ad for body cameras, it's something that absolutely happens. There are some scummy people out there, and clout-chasing on social media essentially encourages it.
  - autoexec 2y ago
    How on earth does clout-chasing on social media encourage people to lie to wait staff at restaurants? Who is handing out likes or whatever to encourage random people to make claims that they got away with ordering stake and then lying about it? If there are a ton of people with cameras filming themselves breaking the law just for internet points (not smart) I'd assume there'd be a lot of examples of this right? Is this some kind of tiktok trend?
    - Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
      > How on earth does clout-chasing on social media encourage people to lie to wait staff at restaurants? Some people enjoy behaving badly or feeling like they're winning. > If there are a ton of people with cameras filming themselves breaking the law just for internet points (not smart) I'd assume there'd be a lot of examples of this right? Is this some kind of tiktok trend? Did you ever hear about the "Kia Boys"? People were stealing Kias and posting the videos on TikTok. https://www.theverge.com/23742425/kia-boys-car-theft-steal-tiktok-hyundai-usb https://www.theverge.com/23742425/kia-boys-car-theft-steal-t... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Challenge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Challenge Is it common? Definitely not, except maybe in the poorest parts of cities. But I feel like you're living in a bubble if you don't think it's happening at all. I don't use TikTok, but a lot of that kind of behavior gets posted to /r/PublicFreakout (Among other types of bad behavior). Spend time there and see what the non-polite and uncivilized members of society are doing.
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  - verteu 2y ago
    I don't doubt that some people lie at restaurants. My comment expressed skepticism that GGP has seen servers equipped with bodycams to combat this.
jacksavage 2y ago
This use case feels like it’s inching towards the world of the Black Mirror episode “The Entire History of You” where people are able to revisit and scrutinize any moment of their life no matter how trivial. It seems that overriding the memory related mechanisms in our brain would fundamentally change human social behavior. In some cases, such as for the purpose of introspection, perhaps this would yield excellent outcomes. For scrutinizing others, my intuition tells me that it will do more harm than good. This is the thought experiment posed by the episode. I suppose similar discussions were probably held around the launch of google glass.

noodlesUK 2y ago

I'm shocked by this comment. Where is expensive enough that it will have steaks that it can't just write off, but isn't so nice that waiters with bodycams don't mess up the ambiance?

Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
Contrary to popular belief, a tax write-off doesn't make it free for the business. Since the steak was already purchased as a business expense, it was probably written off already anyways.
- noodlesUK 2y ago
  I didn't mean write-off from a tax perspective, I meant it in the colloquial sense of eating the cost. Most restaurants are able to absorb the cost of a few mistakes without it impacting their bottom line horribly. I've only ever seen someone dine and dash once or twice ever in my life, but I've seen restaurants fix mistaken orders plenty of times. It seems like body cams on servers is a huge overreaction.

verteu 2y ago

Are you referring to this staged skit? http://youtube.com/shorts/fkrtbDJTGGs http://youtube.com/shorts/fkrtbDJTGGs

Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
While that's obviously staged as an ad for body cameras, it's something that absolutely happens. There are some scummy people out there, and clout-chasing on social media essentially encourages it.
- autoexec 2y ago
  How on earth does clout-chasing on social media encourage people to lie to wait staff at restaurants? Who is handing out likes or whatever to encourage random people to make claims that they got away with ordering stake and then lying about it? If there are a ton of people with cameras filming themselves breaking the law just for internet points (not smart) I'd assume there'd be a lot of examples of this right? Is this some kind of tiktok trend?
  - Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
    > How on earth does clout-chasing on social media encourage people to lie to wait staff at restaurants? Some people enjoy behaving badly or feeling like they're winning. > If there are a ton of people with cameras filming themselves breaking the law just for internet points (not smart) I'd assume there'd be a lot of examples of this right? Is this some kind of tiktok trend? Did you ever hear about the "Kia Boys"? People were stealing Kias and posting the videos on TikTok. https://www.theverge.com/23742425/kia-boys-car-theft-steal-tiktok-hyundai-usb https://www.theverge.com/23742425/kia-boys-car-theft-steal-t... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Challenge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Challenge Is it common? Definitely not, except maybe in the poorest parts of cities. But I feel like you're living in a bubble if you don't think it's happening at all. I don't use TikTok, but a lot of that kind of behavior gets posted to /r/PublicFreakout (Among other types of bad behavior). Spend time there and see what the non-polite and uncivilized members of society are doing.
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- verteu 2y ago
  I don't doubt that some people lie at restaurants. My comment expressed skepticism that GGP has seen servers equipped with bodycams to combat this.

jacksavage 2y ago

This use case feels like it’s inching towards the world of the Black Mirror episode “The Entire History of You” where people are able to revisit and scrutinize any moment of their life no matter how trivial. It seems that overriding the memory related mechanisms in our brain would fundamentally change human social behavior. In some cases, such as for the purpose of introspection, perhaps this would yield excellent outcomes. For scrutinizing others, my intuition tells me that it will do more harm than good. This is the thought experiment posed by the episode. I suppose similar discussions were probably held around the launch of google glass.