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Actually, I’d like to be able to do simple things like legally use the toilet that matches the gender I’ve lived in (and had full surgery for) for 12+ years whe
by MissTake 2y ago
Actually, I’d like to be able to do simple things like legally use the toilet that matches the gender I’ve lived in (and had full surgery for) for 12+ years when I’m in Red States.
Is that really so much to ask for?
(Given the downvotes I’m getting I’m going to assume it is apparently too much to ask for. Either that or people do not believe me when I state that this is indeed an issue in several red States, such as Florida for example which prohibits trans people from using bathrooms in government buildings if their gender doesn’t match their birth certificate)
- megaman821 2y agoI am supportive of the idea of trans bathroom rights, but there are many details to work out. Where are the lines? Does a person need to have full surgery? Do they need to have a gender presentation of the gendered bathroom they wish to use? Can any gender use any bathroom? There is a lot of bigotry involved, but I don't think you can point to lack of laws solely as a bigotry problem. There are a lot of lines to define and details to iron out.
- cholantesh 2y agoThis is a lot of imagined complexity that's been resolved in other countries by simply adopting gender-neutral restrooms.
- megaman821 2y agoCar pollution is an imagined complexity because other countries have simply adopted mass transportation. There are millions of gendered restrooms today. It is an issue that has to be addressed by any law.
- cholantesh 2y agoOkay, but so what? There are nuances involved in all policy implementation, that's not a compelling reason to oppose bringing it to the table. If it is offered in earnest (and I'm not convinced it is), it's reductive.
- megaman821 2y agoWhat you are calling nuances are major points though. At what point are you "identified" enough with your preferred gender to use that gender's restrooms and locker rooms? I feel no one want to pick a line because someone will be offended they didn't pick a more progressive line.
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- MissTake 2y agoI’m 12 years transitioned with both top and bottom surgery and live and work full time as a woman. Until the last few years, trans people used bathrooms with absolutely no problems whatsoever. How is me going into a ladies restroom and peeing inside a locked stall “disrespectful” to other females? What on earth do you think goes on in a ladies bathroom?
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- bradley13 2y agoThe best option, if available, is to use a single-stall (gender neutral) restroom. Otherwise? If you "pass" then no one is going to say anything, because they will never know. If you don't "pass", then tough, go to the men's restroom. Women don't want a man in their restroom, and parents don't want a man in the restroom with their girls. Bottom line: You being trans is not anyone else's problem.
- clocas 2y agoTwo problems with that, first one is these men are often unaware of the extent to which they don't pass. Second one is that some of them get off to defying women's boundaries, it gives them a thrill. Only solution is to legislate against it so at least there's some consequence of being caught.
- MissTake 2y agoThere’s an awful lot of projection in your comment.