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Even if it started as a fabrication it was pretty quickly adopted by the crowd you’d expect to be using such a hand gesture. IOW “Teehee I’m doing a hand gestur

Even if it started as a fabrication it was pretty quickly adopted by the crowd you’d expect to be using such a hand gesture. IOW “Teehee I’m doing a hand gesture everyone thinks is racist but its not because its an internet joke” isnt the own you think it is.

andrewla 2y ago
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- llamaimperative 2y ago
  Except by the Christchurch shooter in court: https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/suspected-new-zealand-shooter-appears-in-court/ https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/suspected-new-zealand-shooter-... And on Jan 6: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/far-right-symbols-capitol-riot/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/far-r... And the Proud Boys: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-proud-boys/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-proud-boys/ Yes it started as "a joke" to troll the libs. And then became and has been used as intended.
  - DontchaKnowit 2y ago
    Far right != white power movement or white nationalism. Proud boys != white power group or white nationalist group.
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    - llamaimperative 2y ago
      Your claim was some mishmash of "only kids do it" and "no one does it in the real world" and "only trolls do it" So I'm not sure what you think you're correcting here.
      - DontchaKnowit 2y ago
        My claim was it is not a symbol of white power. And the article you linked provided 0 evidence to support the claim that it is associated with white power. It did associate it with the 3 percenters, who do not seem to be a white supremecist group. Instead you seem to be claiming that right-wingers use the symbol, ergo it is racist or white power affiliated. That claim is false. Just because someone is a republican, doesnt make them a racist.
        llamaimperative 2y ago
        Wait but I thought the whole joke of making that hand sign was to trick people into thinking you're a racist? Doesn't the entire premise of the "joke" rest on the assumption that people do in fact associate that hand sign with racists?
- DonHopkins 2y ago
  Everything is in real life -- it seems like you are a little bit out of date. Why are you in denial and under the delusion that the online world is not the "real world", just like the sad prosecutor in the Pirate Bay trial? [1] It's not a good look to make excuses and carry the water for white supremacists by denying reality. The online world is quite real, and it has an enormous impact on the offline subset of the world that you naively consider to have a monopoly on "real". A simple google would inform you about the reality of how that symbol is currently used in the real world, regardless of whether you consider google "real" or not. See the sibling comments and the articles and real-world photographs they link to, who took the effort to google that for you. Your argument that you've never seen any evidence is extremely weak if you refuse to look at the evidence when it's presented to you on a silver platter, and that makes you look like just another troll. [1] https://gizmodo.com/pirate-bay-trial-watch-day-5-omg-is-this-happening-ir-5157197 https://gizmodo.com/pirate-bay-trial-watch-day-5-omg-is-this... Pirate Bay Trial Watch Day 5: OMG, Is This Happening IRL? The torrent trial of the century continues, and today, there are some pretty shocking revelations about just how much the prosecution knows. Is that a tinge of remorse I hear from The Pirate Bay dudes? • The Pirate Bay's Peter Sunde (aka brokep) doesn't like copyright! "I like things that are not protected by copyright, this is a non-issue." • The prosecutor knows the secret code for talking on the internets! "When did you meet [Gottfrid] for the first time IRL?" The judge asks, "IRL?" The prosecutor, being with it, coolly informs the judge it means "in real life," sucka. • Oh snap, maybe he doesn't! The Pirate Bay's Peter responds, "We do not use the expression IRL." No, everything is in real life. We use AFK—away from keyboard." This makes for a sad prosecutor: "It seems I am a little bit out of date."
- lelandfe 2y ago
  > this is and remains an extremely common hand gesture routinely used by people with no racist overtones Yep, agreed > no, this has not escaped containment in to the real world > Trolls continue to use it ?
- aspenmayer 2y ago
  That’s literally how high signs work - they’re plausibly deniable, and innocuous or indecipherable to those in the out-group, and/or a shibboleth signifying being part of the in-group. > The title refers to the secret hand signal used by the film's underworld gang. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Sign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Sign
DonHopkins 2y ago
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Popehat%27s%20Law%20of%20Goats https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Popehat%27s%... Popehat's Law of Goats He who fucks goats, either as part of a performance or to troll those he deems has overly delicate sensibilities is simply, a goatfucker. "He claimed he was just pretending to be racist to trigger the social justice warriors, but even if he is telling the truth, Popehat's Law of Goats still applies."
- DontchaKnowit 2y ago
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  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    "Being racist" doesn't mean committing hate crimes. You're allowed to be racist if you want and you're allowed to pretend you're a racist if you want. The goatfucker law still applies.
    - DonHopkins 2y ago
      It's amazing how far racists will contort and bend over backwards not to see racism. It's like they're pretending racism doesn't exist, and has been totally eliminated in the "real world", and all that online stuff doesn't count. Once they paint themselves into a corner by arguing Trump isn't racist because he hasn't actually been convicted of lynching anyone, so all that stuff about Mexicans being rapists and Obama not being American doesn't count, it's pretty hard for anything to pass their definition of racism. (Except Democrats, of course, they are the real racists!)
      - DontchaKnowit 2y ago
        Dude calm down. The only point in making is that making the "okay" hand sign doesnt mean ur affiliated with a white power movement. Im not justifying racism. God people on the internet are fucking braindead when it comes to politics.

andrewla 2y ago

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llamaimperative 2y ago
Except by the Christchurch shooter in court: https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/suspected-new-zealand-shooter-appears-in-court/ https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/suspected-new-zealand-shooter-... And on Jan 6: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/far-right-symbols-capitol-riot/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/far-r... And the Proud Boys: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-proud-boys/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-proud-boys/ Yes it started as "a joke" to troll the libs. And then became and has been used as intended.
- DontchaKnowit 2y ago
  Far right != white power movement or white nationalism. Proud boys != white power group or white nationalist group.
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  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    Your claim was some mishmash of "only kids do it" and "no one does it in the real world" and "only trolls do it" So I'm not sure what you think you're correcting here.
    - DontchaKnowit 2y ago
      My claim was it is not a symbol of white power. And the article you linked provided 0 evidence to support the claim that it is associated with white power. It did associate it with the 3 percenters, who do not seem to be a white supremecist group. Instead you seem to be claiming that right-wingers use the symbol, ergo it is racist or white power affiliated. That claim is false. Just because someone is a republican, doesnt make them a racist.
      - llamaimperative 2y ago
        Wait but I thought the whole joke of making that hand sign was to trick people into thinking you're a racist? Doesn't the entire premise of the "joke" rest on the assumption that people do in fact associate that hand sign with racists?
DonHopkins 2y ago
Everything is in real life -- it seems like you are a little bit out of date. Why are you in denial and under the delusion that the online world is not the "real world", just like the sad prosecutor in the Pirate Bay trial? [1] It's not a good look to make excuses and carry the water for white supremacists by denying reality. The online world is quite real, and it has an enormous impact on the offline subset of the world that you naively consider to have a monopoly on "real". A simple google would inform you about the reality of how that symbol is currently used in the real world, regardless of whether you consider google "real" or not. See the sibling comments and the articles and real-world photographs they link to, who took the effort to google that for you. Your argument that you've never seen any evidence is extremely weak if you refuse to look at the evidence when it's presented to you on a silver platter, and that makes you look like just another troll. [1] https://gizmodo.com/pirate-bay-trial-watch-day-5-omg-is-this-happening-ir-5157197 https://gizmodo.com/pirate-bay-trial-watch-day-5-omg-is-this... Pirate Bay Trial Watch Day 5: OMG, Is This Happening IRL? The torrent trial of the century continues, and today, there are some pretty shocking revelations about just how much the prosecution knows. Is that a tinge of remorse I hear from The Pirate Bay dudes? • The Pirate Bay's Peter Sunde (aka brokep) doesn't like copyright! "I like things that are not protected by copyright, this is a non-issue." • The prosecutor knows the secret code for talking on the internets! "When did you meet [Gottfrid] for the first time IRL?" The judge asks, "IRL?" The prosecutor, being with it, coolly informs the judge it means "in real life," sucka. • Oh snap, maybe he doesn't! The Pirate Bay's Peter responds, "We do not use the expression IRL." No, everything is in real life. We use AFK—away from keyboard." This makes for a sad prosecutor: "It seems I am a little bit out of date."
lelandfe 2y ago
> this is and remains an extremely common hand gesture routinely used by people with no racist overtones Yep, agreed > no, this has not escaped containment in to the real world > Trolls continue to use it ?
aspenmayer 2y ago
That’s literally how high signs work - they’re plausibly deniable, and innocuous or indecipherable to those in the out-group, and/or a shibboleth signifying being part of the in-group. > The title refers to the secret hand signal used by the film's underworld gang. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Sign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Sign

DonHopkins 2y ago

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Popehat%27s%20Law%20of%20Goats https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Popehat%27s%... Popehat's Law of Goats He who fucks goats, either as part of a performance or to troll those he deems has overly delicate sensibilities is simply, a goatfucker. "He claimed he was just pretending to be racist to trigger the social justice warriors, but even if he is telling the truth, Popehat's Law of Goats still applies."

DontchaKnowit 2y ago
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- llamaimperative 2y ago
  "Being racist" doesn't mean committing hate crimes. You're allowed to be racist if you want and you're allowed to pretend you're a racist if you want. The goatfucker law still applies.
  - DonHopkins 2y ago
    It's amazing how far racists will contort and bend over backwards not to see racism. It's like they're pretending racism doesn't exist, and has been totally eliminated in the "real world", and all that online stuff doesn't count. Once they paint themselves into a corner by arguing Trump isn't racist because he hasn't actually been convicted of lynching anyone, so all that stuff about Mexicans being rapists and Obama not being American doesn't count, it's pretty hard for anything to pass their definition of racism. (Except Democrats, of course, they are the real racists!)
    - DontchaKnowit 2y ago
      Dude calm down. The only point in making is that making the "okay" hand sign doesnt mean ur affiliated with a white power movement. Im not justifying racism. God people on the internet are fucking braindead when it comes to politics.