5 ms·

You can only grant something you have the rights to, so basically, they are asking you to do something you can't. I don't have the rights of my client's produc

You can only grant something you have the rights to, so basically, they are asking you to do something you can't. I don't have the rights of my client's product. I want to see how it plays in court.

bustling-noose 2y ago
You granting someone rights to material you don’t have makes you liable twice right? If your friend lent you his car and you lent it to someone else, you become liable twice not zero times.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
kuschku 2y ago
If I'm signing a contract to sell you something I don't have, e.g., the Brooklyn Bridge, then I'm liable. If you sign a contract to license something to Adobe that you don't have the rights to, you're now at fault. Either get a good liability insurance, or avoid using Adobe.
- HWR_14 2y ago
  > Either get a good liability insurance, or avoid using Adobe Or get the client to direct you to use Adobe even with this clause. Easiest solution is to get the client and Adobe to agree to what rights each of them get.
  - bell-cot 2y ago
    THIS. And the moment that the client expresses reservations about this strategy (which your approach to the subject was trying to elicit), you start talking about the alternatives to continued use of Adobe.
jeroenhd 2y ago
You don't have the right to upload your client's product, yet you use software that uploads your client's product. You're correct that the two conflict, but I think the courts would have a problem with you for using a product that breaches the employment contract you signed rather than rule that Adobe is at fault here.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  I think so, you have to pull in the customer and let them know you planning on using the adobe product and since adobe demands they have full access to the customer’s proprietary media they will have to agree to that as well. How that happens I’m not sure? Have them buy an adobe license for you to use? I guess at that point you need lawyers or their full permission to hand over their ideas to Adobe, otherwise you’re gonna be libel if it leaks/gets copied/etc
  - jeroenhd 2y ago
    Having them buy a license would probably work. You could also have this stuff specified in your contract with your employer. Realistically, businesses will either shrug and be fine with you using Adobe stuff, or they'll find someone else (who still uses Photoshop, but doesn't know or warn about this stuff). I doubt the person hiring artists knows or cares about this stuff until an actual leak takes place.
imglorp 2y ago
Everyone should edit some copyrighted works in private. If Adobe goes on to publish them publicly, they will be seen in court pronto. Poison the well?
dathinab 2y ago
and holding your data hostage until you do agree

You can only grant something you have the rights to, so basically, they are asking you to do something you can't. I don't have the rights of my client's product. I want to see how it plays in court.

bustling-noose 2y ago

You granting someone rights to material you don’t have makes you liable twice right? If your friend lent you his car and you lent it to someone else, you become liable twice not zero times.

deleted 2y ago
[deleted]

kuschku 2y ago

If I'm signing a contract to sell you something I don't have, e.g., the Brooklyn Bridge, then I'm liable. If you sign a contract to license something to Adobe that you don't have the rights to, you're now at fault. Either get a good liability insurance, or avoid using Adobe.

HWR_14 2y ago
> Either get a good liability insurance, or avoid using Adobe Or get the client to direct you to use Adobe even with this clause. Easiest solution is to get the client and Adobe to agree to what rights each of them get.
- bell-cot 2y ago
  THIS. And the moment that the client expresses reservations about this strategy (which your approach to the subject was trying to elicit), you start talking about the alternatives to continued use of Adobe.

jeroenhd 2y ago

You don't have the right to upload your client's product, yet you use software that uploads your client's product. You're correct that the two conflict, but I think the courts would have a problem with you for using a product that breaches the employment contract you signed rather than rule that Adobe is at fault here.

EasyMark 2y ago
I think so, you have to pull in the customer and let them know you planning on using the adobe product and since adobe demands they have full access to the customer’s proprietary media they will have to agree to that as well. How that happens I’m not sure? Have them buy an adobe license for you to use? I guess at that point you need lawyers or their full permission to hand over their ideas to Adobe, otherwise you’re gonna be libel if it leaks/gets copied/etc
- jeroenhd 2y ago
  Having them buy a license would probably work. You could also have this stuff specified in your contract with your employer. Realistically, businesses will either shrug and be fine with you using Adobe stuff, or they'll find someone else (who still uses Photoshop, but doesn't know or warn about this stuff). I doubt the person hiring artists knows or cares about this stuff until an actual leak takes place.

imglorp 2y ago

Everyone should edit some copyrighted works in private. If Adobe goes on to publish them publicly, they will be seen in court pronto. Poison the well?

dathinab 2y ago

and holding your data hostage until you do agree