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One data point: In our startup we are short on frontend software engineers. Our project manager started helping with the UI using an IDE (cursor a VS-code for

One data point: In our startup we are short on frontend software engineers. Our project manager started helping with the UI using an IDE (cursor a VS-code fork) with native ChatGPT integration. In the span of six months, they have become very proficient at React. They had wanted to learn basic frontend coding for multiple years but never managed to pass the initial hurdles. Initially, they were only accepting suggestions made by ChatGPT and making frequent errors, but over time, they started understanding the code better and actively telling the LLM how to improve/fix it. Now, I believe they would have the knowledge to build simple functional React frontends without assistance, but the question is why? As a team with an LLM-augmented workflow, we are very productive.

Lonota 2y ago
Sounds like a great learning tool. Not gonna fault people for learning, think the FUD is more so in the vein of being ignorant while working. Yea, you dont really need to know how transistors work to code, but you didnt need that for 2 generations. Personally think (and hope), LLM code tools replace google and SO, more so than writing SW itself. I got my start on a no-code visual editor. Hated it because the 5% of issues it couldn't handle took 80% of my time (with no way to actually do it in many cases). See LLM auto generation as the same, the problems that the tool dosent just solve will be your jobs, and you still need to know things for that.
skydhash 2y ago
With the number of anti patterns in React, are you sure everything’s OK? The thing’s about declarative is that it’s more like writing equations. Imperative have a tighter feedback loop, and ultimately only code organization is a issue. But so many things can go wrong with declarative as it’s one level higher in the abstraction stack. I’m not saying that React is hard to learn. But I believe buying a good book would have them get there quicker.
- thomashop 2y ago
  Yes totally. They already tried doing a few online courses and had a few books. I'm a senior React Dev and the code is totally fine. No more anti-patterns than juniors who I've worked with who learned without AI. The contrary actually.

Lonota 2y ago

Sounds like a great learning tool. Not gonna fault people for learning, think the FUD is more so in the vein of being ignorant while working. Yea, you dont really need to know how transistors work to code, but you didnt need that for 2 generations. Personally think (and hope), LLM code tools replace google and SO, more so than writing SW itself. I got my start on a no-code visual editor. Hated it because the 5% of issues it couldn't handle took 80% of my time (with no way to actually do it in many cases). See LLM auto generation as the same, the problems that the tool dosent just solve will be your jobs, and you still need to know things for that.

skydhash 2y ago

With the number of anti patterns in React, are you sure everything’s OK? The thing’s about declarative is that it’s more like writing equations. Imperative have a tighter feedback loop, and ultimately only code organization is a issue. But so many things can go wrong with declarative as it’s one level higher in the abstraction stack. I’m not saying that React is hard to learn. But I believe buying a good book would have them get there quicker.

thomashop 2y ago
Yes totally. They already tried doing a few online courses and had a few books. I'm a senior React Dev and the code is totally fine. No more anti-patterns than juniors who I've worked with who learned without AI. The contrary actually.