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You forgot about people who used Linux and were put off by all that maintenance work required to have updated and stable environment. I would gladly pay subscri

You forgot about people who used Linux and were put off by all that maintenance work required to have updated and stable environment. I would gladly pay subscription for a stable Linux desktop experience. I am currently using Windows, hate it, but I know that I can update it and be almost certain that it will work tomorrow.

enasterosophes 2y ago
I understand what you're saying, although my experience with Windows was the opposite. I would have had much less motivation to switch from Windows to Linux all those years ago if I could rely on Windows to just work. Except for some brief optimism surrounding Windows 7, nothing I've heard in the intervening 15 years makes me think that Windows is more stable than it used to be. I'm not sure what Linux you tried before, but your mention of requiring an updated and stable environment without much work makes me suspect that you never tried a rolling-release distro. Or maybe you did, but didn't update often enough? I've tried a few different rolling release distros, and invariably find that they remain both stable and bleeding-edge so long as you remember to regularly give them a quick update. That way, if there is something wrong with one package, it's easy to identify what changed and roll it back for a bit, and it won't affect everything else in a systemic way.
- Sankozi 2y ago
  It just seems we have much different experiences. In the last 5 years I used Windows on 3 different computers with different configuration (during the same time: 1 for work, 2 at home). I have never had any significant problems with updates nor with stability. When I used Linux (it was quite a long time ago, but checking comments about desktop on Linux makes me think that not much has changed since then) usually it took less than one year before reinstall or lengthy system repair was needed. I used "versioned" distributions (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Fedora) and rolling releases (Gentoo and Sabayon).
surgical_fire 2y ago
Ironically, I had to do more tinkering to keep Windows running smoothly over the years than I had to do on Linux in the two years since I switched over.
- jrepinc 2y ago
  Same here. I am so glad my parents and aunt decided to switch to GNU/Linux. I live quite far away from them and with Windows had to travel a lot for constant problems with Windows (about each month). Since they switched to GNU/Linux, it is mostly just set and forget and now it happens less than once a year that they need my help with their computer. And even if they do it is so much easier to do it remotely.
prmoustache 2y ago
Nobody prevents you to use RHEL and/or paying someone to remotely manage your personnal computer. Windows or MacOS aren't any more managed/stable.

enasterosophes 2y ago

I understand what you're saying, although my experience with Windows was the opposite. I would have had much less motivation to switch from Windows to Linux all those years ago if I could rely on Windows to just work. Except for some brief optimism surrounding Windows 7, nothing I've heard in the intervening 15 years makes me think that Windows is more stable than it used to be. I'm not sure what Linux you tried before, but your mention of requiring an updated and stable environment without much work makes me suspect that you never tried a rolling-release distro. Or maybe you did, but didn't update often enough? I've tried a few different rolling release distros, and invariably find that they remain both stable and bleeding-edge so long as you remember to regularly give them a quick update. That way, if there is something wrong with one package, it's easy to identify what changed and roll it back for a bit, and it won't affect everything else in a systemic way.

Sankozi 2y ago
It just seems we have much different experiences. In the last 5 years I used Windows on 3 different computers with different configuration (during the same time: 1 for work, 2 at home). I have never had any significant problems with updates nor with stability. When I used Linux (it was quite a long time ago, but checking comments about desktop on Linux makes me think that not much has changed since then) usually it took less than one year before reinstall or lengthy system repair was needed. I used "versioned" distributions (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Fedora) and rolling releases (Gentoo and Sabayon).

surgical_fire 2y ago

Ironically, I had to do more tinkering to keep Windows running smoothly over the years than I had to do on Linux in the two years since I switched over.

jrepinc 2y ago
Same here. I am so glad my parents and aunt decided to switch to GNU/Linux. I live quite far away from them and with Windows had to travel a lot for constant problems with Windows (about each month). Since they switched to GNU/Linux, it is mostly just set and forget and now it happens less than once a year that they need my help with their computer. And even if they do it is so much easier to do it remotely.

prmoustache 2y ago

Nobody prevents you to use RHEL and/or paying someone to remotely manage your personnal computer. Windows or MacOS aren't any more managed/stable.