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Totally in the opposite camp, in the sense I think it’s preferable to customize your experience using 3rd party apps and it should be encouraged model by vendor

Totally in the opposite camp, in the sense I think it’s preferable to customize your experience using 3rd party apps and it should be encouraged model by vendor.

Vuska 2y ago
Sadly Apple picked neither option. 3rd party apps cannot meaningfully interact with Spaces for example, even basic things like moving windows between spaces or adjusting the animation speed so it's not nauseating on ultrawides.
- d3ckard 2y ago
  Agreed, just yesterday I was researching APIs in this area. Still, it’s a different criticism.
- user3939382 2y ago
  There is a way to switch spaces instantly. If anyone actually cares I’ll dig up my solution.
  - drdo 2y ago
    I care! Does your solution involve disabling SIP?
    - user3939382 2y ago
      This utility allows it https://totalspaces.binaryage.com/ https://totalspaces.binaryage.com/ You hit a keyboard shortcut, you get to the new space with 0 animation/transition. It can work with SIP on but only on macOS older than 10.14. They mention here this is due to some changes they make to the Dock https://totalspaces.binaryage.com/sip-details https://totalspaces.binaryage.com/sip-details I'm not sure if the only part I care about (instant Spaces switching) would continue to work without that / if you turn SIP back on. I haven't tried.
      - msephton 2y ago
        You can get pretty fast Spaces switching by checking Reduce Motion in Accessibility. Obviously that has applied to other things across the system.
- zimpenfish 2y ago
  > even basic things like moving windows between spaces I don't really use spaces but I've got "Displays have seperate spaces" turned on and Rectangle Pro has "Next Display" and "Previous Display" which moves the foreground app to, unsurprisingly, the next and previous display (which seems to be a space). Are you after something like "move this window to space Y" rather than just "next space"?
vundercind 2y ago
I’d have said this was insane back when I was a Linux user but after years in Mac land… in practice, man, it’s so much better. It still feels wrong, but I can’t argue with the results. [edit] though, I mean, at a certain level wanting to customize your UI in X/Wayland means changing out large portions of your UI stack entirely. Layering on top isn’t really crazier than that.

Totally in the opposite camp, in the sense I think it’s preferable to customize your experience using 3rd party apps and it should be encouraged model by vendor.

Vuska 2y ago

Sadly Apple picked neither option. 3rd party apps cannot meaningfully interact with Spaces for example, even basic things like moving windows between spaces or adjusting the animation speed so it's not nauseating on ultrawides.

d3ckard 2y ago
Agreed, just yesterday I was researching APIs in this area. Still, it’s a different criticism.
user3939382 2y ago
There is a way to switch spaces instantly. If anyone actually cares I’ll dig up my solution.
- drdo 2y ago
  I care! Does your solution involve disabling SIP?
  - user3939382 2y ago
    This utility allows it https://totalspaces.binaryage.com/ https://totalspaces.binaryage.com/ You hit a keyboard shortcut, you get to the new space with 0 animation/transition. It can work with SIP on but only on macOS older than 10.14. They mention here this is due to some changes they make to the Dock https://totalspaces.binaryage.com/sip-details https://totalspaces.binaryage.com/sip-details I'm not sure if the only part I care about (instant Spaces switching) would continue to work without that / if you turn SIP back on. I haven't tried.
    - msephton 2y ago
      You can get pretty fast Spaces switching by checking Reduce Motion in Accessibility. Obviously that has applied to other things across the system.
zimpenfish 2y ago
> even basic things like moving windows between spaces I don't really use spaces but I've got "Displays have seperate spaces" turned on and Rectangle Pro has "Next Display" and "Previous Display" which moves the foreground app to, unsurprisingly, the next and previous display (which seems to be a space). Are you after something like "move this window to space Y" rather than just "next space"?

vundercind 2y ago

I’d have said this was insane back when I was a Linux user but after years in Mac land… in practice, man, it’s so much better. It still feels wrong, but I can’t argue with the results. [edit] though, I mean, at a certain level wanting to customize your UI in X/Wayland means changing out large portions of your UI stack entirely. Layering on top isn’t really crazier than that.