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Regardless of how you feel about diversity or who's fault all the differences in groups are, it's disingenuous to compare the least diverse country in the world

Regardless of how you feel about diversity or who's fault all the differences in groups are, it's disingenuous to compare the least diverse country in the world to the most diverse like this. Wealthy white people in America surely have great maternal mortality rates, too.

lm28469 2y ago
Diversity has nothing to do with it. It's all about wealth equality and access to healthcare.
- vsuperpower2020 2y ago
  Where does wealth and healthcare come from? The natural state of the world is no wealth and no healthcare. Someone has to build civilization, humans have to work hard to support it, and every future generation has to be committed to maintaining it. Diversity is antithetical to all of this.
  - lm28469 2y ago
    That's not a diversity issue, that's a "people not playing the game" issue, leeches can have any skin color or country of origin. I know white trash that are more of a burden to society than some of my immigrant friends (what HN call "expats" because they somehow think they're not migrants)
    - vsuperpower2020 2y ago
      Yes, this is a diversity issue. If you want people to play the game you can't replace them with hostile outsiders and call them "white trash". Thanks for illustrating my point.
      - lm28469 2y ago
        There are hostile outsiders of course but the extreme vast majority of people play the game. Do you really think the US (aka #1 economy in the world aka #1 power in the world) has the same life expectancy as Sri Lanka because """diversity""" ? There are a dozen of things that have more impacts. Like half of the US being obese, or 15%+ have diabetes, &c. (which are both factors in maternal death btw). Time to wake up and take a good hard look in the mirror
        vsuperpower2020 2y ago
        The US has been socially destroyed in the unrelenting pursuit of diversity, and as you've observed, our life expectancy has been dropping for years. Nobody cares about anything, the game is already over. This isn't our country anymore.
lancebeet 2y ago
Are you implying that the ethnic homogeneity of Norway is the reason for the low maternal death rates in Norway? Or are you saying it's the economic "diversity" (i.e. inequality) in the US that's the problem? What exactly makes such a comparison disingenuous?
rightbyte 2y ago
"In 2021, the maternal mortality rate for non-Hispanic Black (subsequently, Black) women was 69.9 deaths per 100,000 live births, 2.6 times the rate for non-Hispanic White (subsequently, White) women (26.6)" https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality/2021/maternal-mortality-rates-2021.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality/2021... 26.6/100000 is quite high compared to e.g. Canada and European countries. Like twice to five times higher depending on what country it is compared to.
- pjc50 2y ago
  Indeed. A large part of this is explicable by discriminatory healthcare.
hilux 2y ago
You completely made up that first part. Why do you do that? Norway is 12.2% immigrants, and many of those are from the Middle East. The "least diverse [rich] country in the world" is probably S Korea.
- frithsun 2y ago
  "Many" is doing a lot of work here, as most of that 12% are people from similar countries and cultures.
  - hilux 2y ago
    Only one of the top 10 countries of origin (Sweden) is either Scandinavian or Nordic. Why do you persist? Who are you trying to persuade (with your alternative facts), and of what?
paddim8 2y ago
Norway is absolutely not the least diverse country in the world. You just made that up. /r/ShitAmericansSay

lm28469 2y ago

Diversity has nothing to do with it. It's all about wealth equality and access to healthcare.

vsuperpower2020 2y ago
Where does wealth and healthcare come from? The natural state of the world is no wealth and no healthcare. Someone has to build civilization, humans have to work hard to support it, and every future generation has to be committed to maintaining it. Diversity is antithetical to all of this.
- lm28469 2y ago
  That's not a diversity issue, that's a "people not playing the game" issue, leeches can have any skin color or country of origin. I know white trash that are more of a burden to society than some of my immigrant friends (what HN call "expats" because they somehow think they're not migrants)
  - vsuperpower2020 2y ago
    Yes, this is a diversity issue. If you want people to play the game you can't replace them with hostile outsiders and call them "white trash". Thanks for illustrating my point.
    - lm28469 2y ago
      There are hostile outsiders of course but the extreme vast majority of people play the game. Do you really think the US (aka #1 economy in the world aka #1 power in the world) has the same life expectancy as Sri Lanka because """diversity""" ? There are a dozen of things that have more impacts. Like half of the US being obese, or 15%+ have diabetes, &c. (which are both factors in maternal death btw). Time to wake up and take a good hard look in the mirror
      - vsuperpower2020 2y ago
        The US has been socially destroyed in the unrelenting pursuit of diversity, and as you've observed, our life expectancy has been dropping for years. Nobody cares about anything, the game is already over. This isn't our country anymore.

lancebeet 2y ago

Are you implying that the ethnic homogeneity of Norway is the reason for the low maternal death rates in Norway? Or are you saying it's the economic "diversity" (i.e. inequality) in the US that's the problem? What exactly makes such a comparison disingenuous?

rightbyte 2y ago

"In 2021, the maternal mortality rate for non-Hispanic Black (subsequently, Black) women was 69.9 deaths per 100,000 live births, 2.6 times the rate for non-Hispanic White (subsequently, White) women (26.6)" https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality/2021/maternal-mortality-rates-2021.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality/2021... 26.6/100000 is quite high compared to e.g. Canada and European countries. Like twice to five times higher depending on what country it is compared to.

pjc50 2y ago
Indeed. A large part of this is explicable by discriminatory healthcare.

hilux 2y ago

You completely made up that first part. Why do you do that? Norway is 12.2% immigrants, and many of those are from the Middle East. The "least diverse [rich] country in the world" is probably S Korea.

frithsun 2y ago
"Many" is doing a lot of work here, as most of that 12% are people from similar countries and cultures.
- hilux 2y ago
  Only one of the top 10 countries of origin (Sweden) is either Scandinavian or Nordic. Why do you persist? Who are you trying to persuade (with your alternative facts), and of what?

paddim8 2y ago

Norway is absolutely not the least diverse country in the world. You just made that up. /r/ShitAmericansSay