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So this will increase the slaughter and inhumane treatment towards other sentient creatures. Put another blind eye to slaughterhouses. Better people should ge
by amalag 14y ago
So this will increase the slaughter and inhumane treatment towards other sentient creatures. Put another blind eye to slaughterhouses. Better people should get graphic reminders of where their meat comes from than put another layer on the plastic packaging through using a machine.
Losing empathy towards living creatures means reducing empathy for humans as well. A controversial statement, but i am sure one can search that out within themselves.
- rdl 14y agoI really don't think having some poor people working in slaughterhouses, treated slightly better than the animals they butcher (but only slightly) really improves anyone's sense of empathy for animals (or humans). That ship sailed a long time ago, around when we got factory farming or really once any family didn't contain at least one farmer (1800s?)
- gurkendoktor 14y agoTo anecdotally confirm what you said: There was a "scandal" in Germany last year where a school slaughtered and barbecued a hare. (Students were around 10/11 years old) Parents were outraged, basically arguing 'it should be everyone's choice to either know or ignore where meat comes from'.
- tomp 14y agoDid you read the article? The robot just separates the meat from the bone of chicken that are already dead. Robots won't increase the number of kills - consumer demand will. Interestingly, robots might even reduce the inhumane treatment towards these animals, which is, if I understand correctly, most often the result of cost-saving.
- corin_ 14y agoMore meat from each chicken could lead to less chickens killed, on the other hand cheaper production could lead to cheaper prices which could lead to a rise in demand... But as a non-vegetarian I'm pretty indifferent to which animals we eat more of.
- nitrogen 14y agoSo this will increase the slaughter and inhumane treatment towards other sentient creatures. When did chickens become sentient?
- justsee 14y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience
- jlgreco 14y agoSure, we know what it means. Does any of that apply to chickens? Chickens are stupid, really stupid.
- justsee 14y agoWell yes, that's why I just posted the link to the article which explains why they are sentient. A more interesting, thoughtful piece on this is http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2004/08/consider_the_lobster http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2004/08/consider_the_l...
- jlgreco 14y agoYou are going to have to help me out and at least try to make an argument instead of linking to others. That wikipedia page doesn't suggest anything in your supporting as far as I can tell besides 'when talking about animal rights, the ability to feel pain is a sufficient argument' and backs that statement up with 'higher functioning is not required because no matter how crippled, humans are still sentient'. This is an emotional argument and I am forced to say that ratiponallly no, humans that are sufficiently disabled are not sentient. The lobster article just starts with the premise that they are sentient, dismisses the complete absence of brain structures that, if we lacked, we would likely be considered braindead, and say 'but they don't like being boiled!' Terribly unconvincing.
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- icebraining 14y agoMy grandmother, who raises chicken, likes them as much as most people I know like their dogs, and yet she has no problem killing and eating them. Your view of reduced empathy is simplistic and wrong.
- amalag 14y agoSo you are saying your grandmother is very compassionate?