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> I think states have dropped issuing the ones that don’t. Some have. Oregon, as a single example, will let you opt for a non-Real ID card.
by rootusrootus 2y ago
> I think states have dropped issuing the ones that don’t.
Some have. Oregon, as a single example, will let you opt for a non-Real ID card.
- jackson1442 2y agoWashington doesn’t even officially offer a RealID. Instead they have the “Enhanced ID” which functions as a passport card but does not have the security features required on a RealID (though it does have some additional features like RFID).
- _caw 2y agoCan you expand on that? The Federal Government[0] seems to think the EDL[1] is a RealID. [0] https://www.dhs.gov/real-id https://www.dhs.gov/real-id [1] https://dol.wa.gov/id-cards/real-id https://dol.wa.gov/id-cards/real-id
- joecool1029 2y agoAll EDL's are RealID complaint, not all drivers licenses are. NJ issues 'not for Real ID purposes' drivers licenses still with the option to get the realid yellow star licenses DHS shows on your first link. They keep pushing back the enforcement date due to various ACLU and state lawsuits as well as COVID-19 backlog.
- bobthepanda 2y agosure, but saying that EDLs are Real ID compliant directly contradicts the grandparent comment saying that WA does not issue a Real ID.
- Spooky23 2y agoNot true. Proof of citizenship for Enhanced ID meets and exceeds the RealID requirement.
- Spooky23 2y agoRealID requires a social security card and is mostly about making it difficult for poor people to vote. Data exchange between DMVs or for other non-law enforcement purposes is coordinated through AAMVA. You can see what states exchange data here: (https://www.aamva.org/it-systems-participation-map https://www.aamva.org/it-systems-participation-map). There are loopholes that people exploit - for example NJ registered trucks won't be subject to registration action in NY... so you can accumulate lots of tickets in NYC with no consequence. Some Canadian provinces exchange data between individual states as well. A system called Nlets connects every jurisdiction for law enforcement purposes.
- jonathankoren 2y ago> RealID requires a social security card and is mostly about making it difficult for poor people to vote. Bruh. If you don't have a social security number, you can't even work legally. Also, 99% of people born in the US[0] get them at birth. What are you talking about? [0] I on the other hand, didn't get one until I was about 8 years old, because my parents wanted to hide me from the draft, but that's now the draft works, and you need a social security number for all sorts of stuff now, like tax deductions.
- Spooky23 2y agoThere’s a difference between having a social security number and a social security card. You need a number to work. You need the card for real id. Replacement of a lost card is onerous. For a minor, incredibly onerous - you need a healthcare provider to sign a statement identifying the minor. (Good luck with that)