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Meanwhile my Linux machine plays all the latest games flawlessly and doesn't nag me at all. At some point Windows users need to wake up and stop being willfull

Meanwhile my Linux machine plays all the latest games flawlessly and doesn't nag me at all. At some point Windows users need to wake up and stop being willfully ignorant of the perfectly viable alternative.

resource_waste 2y ago
You should tell them to stay away from Debian-family like Ubuntu and Mint. The easiest way to get someone to go back to M$ is to tell people to use an outdated linux distro. Fedora/OpenSUSE are literally the best OS ever. Better across the board.
- trey-jones 2y ago
  There is no need for distro wars here. What works for you is not necessarily what works for someone else, and none of them are _literally_ the best OS ever. Just because Debian and family have been around for a long time, doesn't mean they're outdated - and believe me it's not personal bias: I choose Arch for myself.
  - resource_waste 2y ago
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    - adamomada 2y ago
      I think you’re right and nobody really wants to hear it but here goes: Fedora works the best on laptop computers which are the overwhelming majority of regular people’s personal computers at home, and the only reason it can work so well is because of the work that went into systemd to get it where it is today. So much stuff is considered, even down to swap strategy for modern computers with solid-state drives, that Fedora should probably be crowned “least-worst distro” for ex-Windows users. If there was an effort to get them all on one, either gnome or kde (probably kde for ex-windows users tho) it would do wonders for Linux overall, and maybe 2025 is the year of the Linux Desktop with Win10 EOL. (I don’t even like it, or systemd really, but it’s a necessary ‘evil’ to have it backed by some sort of commercial entity as well)
- joe200 2y ago
  What a nonsense ! I bet you have no or little idea about Debian family. Debian stable is rock solid but doesn't have the most up-to-date software. Debian Sid and Testing both have very up-to-date software. It is your choice and you decide what you want.
snarfy 2y ago
All the latest games except any that run anti-cheat.
- klipklop 2y ago
  Kernel-level anti-cheat does not work in Linux and I think that is a good thing. Should you really trust some random game company to have essentially root/admin on your computer? They are not a very trustworthy group of people... If you can't detect cheating in user space or with traditional telemetry I don't want to play your game. I refuse to run kernel-level anti-cheat.
  - snarfy 2y ago
    They are good games and I want to play them, but I agree it does not work in Linux, and more generally, it simply does not work at all. Play any game with kernel level anti-cheat and you will find lobby after lobby full of cheaters.
nutrie 2y ago
Not everyone is into games. Although I agree with the criticism here, there's at least two areas where comparable software simply does not exist on Linux/BSD: a) Spreadsheets. Not talking about simple stuff here, Libre/OpenOffice is a joke when it comes to more advanced stuff, and whether we like it or not, the world is literally running on spreadsheets. Google Sheets is okay for less demanding tasks, Apps Script is a huge plus of that platform. b) 2D graphics and photography software. Adobe CS is unfortunately still irreplaceable, even 20 years later. Again, I'm talking about professional graphic design and photography work (and workflows). Yes, there are masochists trying to do DTP on Linux. Yes, people think AI will replace those jobs. Neither will happen in the foreseeable future. Take typography as an example of such a highly specialized craft. Which is why Adobe (and some others) can afford to be so damn aggressive with their policies. Wine doesn't cut it. I often wonder if anybody really uses it for anything except messing around. Hence the only solid alternative is macOS. On the other hand, all this also means opportunities... :)

resource_waste 2y ago

You should tell them to stay away from Debian-family like Ubuntu and Mint. The easiest way to get someone to go back to M$ is to tell people to use an outdated linux distro. Fedora/OpenSUSE are literally the best OS ever. Better across the board.

trey-jones 2y ago
There is no need for distro wars here. What works for you is not necessarily what works for someone else, and none of them are _literally_ the best OS ever. Just because Debian and family have been around for a long time, doesn't mean they're outdated - and believe me it's not personal bias: I choose Arch for myself.
- resource_waste 2y ago
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  - adamomada 2y ago
    I think you’re right and nobody really wants to hear it but here goes: Fedora works the best on laptop computers which are the overwhelming majority of regular people’s personal computers at home, and the only reason it can work so well is because of the work that went into systemd to get it where it is today. So much stuff is considered, even down to swap strategy for modern computers with solid-state drives, that Fedora should probably be crowned “least-worst distro” for ex-Windows users. If there was an effort to get them all on one, either gnome or kde (probably kde for ex-windows users tho) it would do wonders for Linux overall, and maybe 2025 is the year of the Linux Desktop with Win10 EOL. (I don’t even like it, or systemd really, but it’s a necessary ‘evil’ to have it backed by some sort of commercial entity as well)
joe200 2y ago
What a nonsense ! I bet you have no or little idea about Debian family. Debian stable is rock solid but doesn't have the most up-to-date software. Debian Sid and Testing both have very up-to-date software. It is your choice and you decide what you want.

snarfy 2y ago

All the latest games except any that run anti-cheat.

klipklop 2y ago
Kernel-level anti-cheat does not work in Linux and I think that is a good thing. Should you really trust some random game company to have essentially root/admin on your computer? They are not a very trustworthy group of people... If you can't detect cheating in user space or with traditional telemetry I don't want to play your game. I refuse to run kernel-level anti-cheat.
- snarfy 2y ago
  They are good games and I want to play them, but I agree it does not work in Linux, and more generally, it simply does not work at all. Play any game with kernel level anti-cheat and you will find lobby after lobby full of cheaters.

nutrie 2y ago

Not everyone is into games. Although I agree with the criticism here, there's at least two areas where comparable software simply does not exist on Linux/BSD: a) Spreadsheets. Not talking about simple stuff here, Libre/OpenOffice is a joke when it comes to more advanced stuff, and whether we like it or not, the world is literally running on spreadsheets. Google Sheets is okay for less demanding tasks, Apps Script is a huge plus of that platform. b) 2D graphics and photography software. Adobe CS is unfortunately still irreplaceable, even 20 years later. Again, I'm talking about professional graphic design and photography work (and workflows). Yes, there are masochists trying to do DTP on Linux. Yes, people think AI will replace those jobs. Neither will happen in the foreseeable future. Take typography as an example of such a highly specialized craft. Which is why Adobe (and some others) can afford to be so damn aggressive with their policies. Wine doesn't cut it. I often wonder if anybody really uses it for anything except messing around. Hence the only solid alternative is macOS. On the other hand, all this also means opportunities... :)