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Somewhat on subject: does anybody feel like the macos-style application menu that is disconnected from the application window has outlived its welcome? I feel l

Somewhat on subject: does anybody feel like the macos-style application menu that is disconnected from the application window has outlived its welcome? I feel like apple gets so much right from a UX perspective, but in a world of multi-monitor setups and common cross application workflows, I find it absolutely bizarre that I might have to scroll across 2+ monitors to get to a dropdown menu for an application that I'm using, and sometimes still get to a dropdown menu for the wrong application.

throwaway38375 2y ago
Yes! Windows got it right IMO.
mbreese 2y ago
I like the detached menu, but mainly because it makes the application window smaller with less overall decoration. With multiple applications open, each window having menu bar decorations seems cluttered to me. I like the minimalist and consistent nature of it all. However, it does get more complicated with multiple monitors and I don’t know of the solution here. You’re right that the UX falls when you’re trying to work with menus across multiple monitors. Perhaps the right mix is doing something like the Chrome extras menu or if you’ve used VS Code on the web, where you have a small hamburger or (…) button that opens a context menu. Then you still have a menu for the application, but it’s hidden until you need it.
- eviks 2y ago
  On Windows it's more minimalist - menu is hidden right until you need it instead of always taking precious space
lloeki 2y ago
> in a world of multi-monitor setups and common cross application workflows, I find it absolutely bizarre that I might have to scroll across 2+ monitors to get to a dropdown menu for an application that I'm using These days the menubar is always on all displays, not just the main one? (unless maybe you have "Displays use separate Spaces" unchecked?)
agos 2y ago
if you configure your displays to have separate spaces you'll also have a menubar on every display
incanus77 2y ago
You may like the Menuwhere application, then. You can setup a hotkey on it, too.

throwaway38375 2y ago

Yes! Windows got it right IMO.

mbreese 2y ago

I like the detached menu, but mainly because it makes the application window smaller with less overall decoration. With multiple applications open, each window having menu bar decorations seems cluttered to me. I like the minimalist and consistent nature of it all. However, it does get more complicated with multiple monitors and I don’t know of the solution here. You’re right that the UX falls when you’re trying to work with menus across multiple monitors. Perhaps the right mix is doing something like the Chrome extras menu or if you’ve used VS Code on the web, where you have a small hamburger or (…) button that opens a context menu. Then you still have a menu for the application, but it’s hidden until you need it.

eviks 2y ago
On Windows it's more minimalist - menu is hidden right until you need it instead of always taking precious space

lloeki 2y ago

> in a world of multi-monitor setups and common cross application workflows, I find it absolutely bizarre that I might have to scroll across 2+ monitors to get to a dropdown menu for an application that I'm using These days the menubar is always on all displays, not just the main one? (unless maybe you have "Displays use separate Spaces" unchecked?)

agos 2y ago

if you configure your displays to have separate spaces you'll also have a menubar on every display

incanus77 2y ago

You may like the Menuwhere application, then. You can setup a hotkey on it, too.