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I wonder if following the mouse for focus would be doable without disabling SIP. It's one of the features I didn't even see in other macOS WM.

feep 2y ago
It is, Yabai can do it. I am currently using autoraise. Both work great, barring UI weirdness of macOS. Example. Mousing over another window on the way to the menubar. https://github.com/sbmpost/AutoRaise https://github.com/sbmpost/AutoRaise
bashinator 2y ago
I've been searching for a sloppy-mouse-focus implementation for OSX for _years_. Pretty sure there's something fundamentally incompatible in how app windows are managed.
- lelandfe 2y ago
  It's also a bummer because Terminal.app has the functionality out of the box: https://macos-defaults.com/mouse/focusfollowsmouse.html https://macos-defaults.com/mouse/focusfollowsmouse.html
  - bashinator 2y ago
    It can be implemented within apps, but not across apps afaict.
- speedgoose 2y ago
  Looks like Hammerspoon and some lua should do: https://www.hammerspoon.org/docs/hs.mouse.html https://www.hammerspoon.org/docs/hs.mouse.html https://www.hammerspoon.org/docs/hs.window.html https://www.hammerspoon.org/docs/hs.window.html
  - bashinator 2y ago
    Not seeing a way to get the window currently under the mouse pointer, but this is pretty interesting - thanks!
    - speedgoose 2y ago
      You can get the positions of every windows, the position of the mouse pointer, and you can focus windows.
      - bashinator 2y ago
        This is really cool, I'm gonna try and implement it!
jamil7 2y ago
Should be possible using AX APIs on mac, might not be all that performant, however.
samatman 2y ago
The problem with focus-follows-mouse on macOS is the top menu bar. If you had it, and tried to mouse to the menu, the menu would switch out from under you. I have some notes in a file somewhere about how a Mac-native focus-follows-mouse could even work, because I want it. It would end up being a rather different implementation than the X Windows style.
- barnabee 2y ago
  I have an Alfred workflow to search the menu, so not being able to move the mouse there isn’t a big issue.
filereaper 2y ago
Yup there's AutoFocus which I use daily with Aerospace https://github.com/synappser/AutoFocus https://github.com/synappser/AutoFocus

feep 2y ago

It is, Yabai can do it. I am currently using autoraise. Both work great, barring UI weirdness of macOS. Example. Mousing over another window on the way to the menubar. https://github.com/sbmpost/AutoRaise https://github.com/sbmpost/AutoRaise

bashinator 2y ago

I've been searching for a sloppy-mouse-focus implementation for OSX for _years_. Pretty sure there's something fundamentally incompatible in how app windows are managed.

lelandfe 2y ago
It's also a bummer because Terminal.app has the functionality out of the box: https://macos-defaults.com/mouse/focusfollowsmouse.html https://macos-defaults.com/mouse/focusfollowsmouse.html
- bashinator 2y ago
  It can be implemented within apps, but not across apps afaict.
speedgoose 2y ago
Looks like Hammerspoon and some lua should do: https://www.hammerspoon.org/docs/hs.mouse.html https://www.hammerspoon.org/docs/hs.mouse.html https://www.hammerspoon.org/docs/hs.window.html https://www.hammerspoon.org/docs/hs.window.html
- bashinator 2y ago
  Not seeing a way to get the window currently under the mouse pointer, but this is pretty interesting - thanks!
  - speedgoose 2y ago
    You can get the positions of every windows, the position of the mouse pointer, and you can focus windows.
    - bashinator 2y ago
      This is really cool, I'm gonna try and implement it!

jamil7 2y ago

Should be possible using AX APIs on mac, might not be all that performant, however.

samatman 2y ago

The problem with focus-follows-mouse on macOS is the top menu bar. If you had it, and tried to mouse to the menu, the menu would switch out from under you. I have some notes in a file somewhere about how a Mac-native focus-follows-mouse could even work, because I want it. It would end up being a rather different implementation than the X Windows style.

barnabee 2y ago
I have an Alfred workflow to search the menu, so not being able to move the mouse there isn’t a big issue.

filereaper 2y ago

Yup there's AutoFocus which I use daily with Aerospace https://github.com/synappser/AutoFocus https://github.com/synappser/AutoFocus