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What's the justification for rifling through someone's pockets because they were in a yelling match though? That seems like a 4th amendment violation. Not qui
by dmoy 2y ago
What's the justification for rifling through someone's pockets because they were in a yelling match though? That seems like a 4th amendment violation. Not quite stop-and-frisk, but should any slightly abnormal behavior give justification for a search?
I guess that ship sailed a long time ago given that NYC is still doing stop and frisk, even after it was deemed unconstitutional
- SoftTalker 2y agoThe guy was chronically homeless, probably used to being hassled by the cops, maybe consented to the search especially if he knew there was nothing to find. Not that's it's right, but street people are targets of the cops. The involvement of the drone likely didn't have anything to do with it.
- r2_pilot 2y agoOfficers have wide discretion to ensure their safety in an encounter. While this doesn't always result in a search, it could easily do so in cases where emotions are elevated.
- stronglikedan 2y agoAnd that would be illegal, for good reason.
- giantg2 2y ago"And that would be illegal" Where would that be? Most states allow personal safety searches during investigations of other infractions. For example, police can ask you to step out of your car and search you for weapons if you're pulled over for a traffic infraction. They tend not to do it often, but they have the power to and the courts consistently support that (I most states).
- stronglikedan 2y agoThey certainly do not have that power, legally. But they will just make something up in the report so no one questions the illegal search.