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It's interesting how we saw the drone combat unit coming years before the invasion of Ukraine. I remember seeing drone police units at protests before the pande

It's interesting how we saw the drone combat unit coming years before the invasion of Ukraine. I remember seeing drone police units at protests before the pandemic here in Sweden. So I should have been able to predict that any modern combat would follow suit, but I was still surprised by the revelation of a drone combat unit in the Ukrainian army.

cess11 2y ago
Militarily Sweden is lagging behind in this area, in part due to regulations around aircraft. Which leads to this situation where the state is mainly applying flying drones against it's own civilians, as a means of mass surveillance of innocents.
BurningFrog 2y ago
The first drone war was Azerbaijan's victory over Armenia in 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_X_9oWLmfU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_X_9oWLmfU
- renegade-otter 2y ago
  Well, it wasn't really a drone war as it was totally one-sided, with Azerbaijan dominating with Turkish-made drones. In Ukraine, you can actually see drones trying to knock each other off kinetically. There is even a video of a Russian drone dropping a net over another one.
  - impossiblefork 2y ago
    It wasn't only drones, it was the Hamza division flow from Syria by Turkey, it was Turkish drones, Israeli drones. This implies Georgian co-operation, since Turkey obviously didn't fly the Hamza division through Russia, Iran or India, and didn't take some kind of convoluted route through Pakistan. The war against the Karabach-Armenians was truly multi-national project, with numerous co-belligerents, Turkey, Georgia, Russia (possibly in the later stages), even the US. Israel is not a co-belligerent since they didn't give any weapons, but sold them, but the weapons they sold were as far as I understand quite important. Georgia was a co-belligerent because of the Hamza division crossing through it. Russia was not a co-belligerent in the 2020 war, but I believe they might have been during the actual expulsion-- it's possible they just gave their approval, and then it'd be Turkey, Georgia and the US, but even if the Russians didn't do more than give that assent that assent still had worse consequences than the formal co-belligerency of the US, so one would still want to include them somehow. I think the US tried to avoid being a formal co-belligerent by giving some military aid to Armenia, but the NKAO successor state was not Armenia, but separate, so that doesn't actually change anything with regard to co-belligerency.
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cess11 2y ago

Militarily Sweden is lagging behind in this area, in part due to regulations around aircraft. Which leads to this situation where the state is mainly applying flying drones against it's own civilians, as a means of mass surveillance of innocents.

BurningFrog 2y ago

The first drone war was Azerbaijan's victory over Armenia in 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_X_9oWLmfU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_X_9oWLmfU

renegade-otter 2y ago
Well, it wasn't really a drone war as it was totally one-sided, with Azerbaijan dominating with Turkish-made drones. In Ukraine, you can actually see drones trying to knock each other off kinetically. There is even a video of a Russian drone dropping a net over another one.
- impossiblefork 2y ago
  It wasn't only drones, it was the Hamza division flow from Syria by Turkey, it was Turkish drones, Israeli drones. This implies Georgian co-operation, since Turkey obviously didn't fly the Hamza division through Russia, Iran or India, and didn't take some kind of convoluted route through Pakistan. The war against the Karabach-Armenians was truly multi-national project, with numerous co-belligerents, Turkey, Georgia, Russia (possibly in the later stages), even the US. Israel is not a co-belligerent since they didn't give any weapons, but sold them, but the weapons they sold were as far as I understand quite important. Georgia was a co-belligerent because of the Hamza division crossing through it. Russia was not a co-belligerent in the 2020 war, but I believe they might have been during the actual expulsion-- it's possible they just gave their approval, and then it'd be Turkey, Georgia and the US, but even if the Russians didn't do more than give that assent that assent still had worse consequences than the formal co-belligerency of the US, so one would still want to include them somehow. I think the US tried to avoid being a formal co-belligerent by giving some military aid to Armenia, but the NKAO successor state was not Armenia, but separate, so that doesn't actually change anything with regard to co-belligerency.

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