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I'd love to have a bicycle, but battery powered angle grinders are too cheap.

PreInternet01 2y ago
Also cheap: bike insurance, with "we'll drop your new bike within 1hr of you reporting the theft" SLAs. At least, where I live... (and where my last bike was stolen, like, over a decade ago).
latentcall 2y ago
When I was in Amsterdam it seemed most people had cheap beater bikes for that very reason. If someone had a nicer bike they’d bring it into their flat.
- bradlys 2y ago
  Doesn’t really help if you’re going out to places and there’s nowhere to bring your bike into. E.g. a restaurant.
  - prmoustache 2y ago
    I have been spending a few days in another french city and seen some bikes stored at the back of some restaurants, next to the toilets. Sure it can t be applied to all restaurants but cyclists can choose their place of choice based on how cycling friendly they are.
- milkytron 2y ago
  I do this in Denver, where bike theft is supposedly rampant. Never had an issue, and I live in one of the worse areas and will leave my bike parked and unattended for hours at a time. I also sticker bombed one of my bikes so that if someone were to steal it, it would be very easily identifiable.
  - giraffe_lady 2y ago
    What does identifying it do for you? I had a bike stolen a few years ago and I've seen it a handful of times since then. Police are not interested in this in my experience, basically told me to pound sand. Are you going to steal it back or what?
    - milkytron 2y ago
      As of now, I haven't ever needed to steal a bike back. I view it more as theft deterrent. They'll be less likely to be able sell it, and it makes the bike look like it's not as valuable.
    - ssl-3 2y ago
      I've had bikes stolen a few times -- in the midwestern US, and mostly as a kid where my bike was not generally stored very securely. Usually, they're just...gone. The police around here do collect bikes that they find dumped in places where they don't belong -- in parks or when reported in random folks' yards or wherever. These get auctioned off if not claimed first. But I did get my bikes back a few times. Most memorably, I was doing some random technical work at the local PD and was heading out to have a smoke, and I saw a bike that looked just like mine just standing there on the back dock. Same purple Caloi aluminum frame, same additions (like the 90s-style Control Stix bar ends), same everything, except it had an inventory tag on it. Which very seemed strange to me, since I knew very well that my bike was safe at home. Or did I know that? Maybe my bike wasn't safe at home. Or maybe someone else had the same mods on their own bike, which wasn't particularly unlikely since I bought all of it from a singular bike shop in town? So I asked about it. And they're like "Well, if that's your bike, then maybe you can tell us something about it that is identifiable. Something unique that you couldn't see in the five minutes you've been standing there staring at it." I couldn't think of anything. But that ultimately didn't matter -- they were fucking with me for the lulz. "Maybe you don't remember doing this," they continued, "but it's got your name, address, and phone number engraved on the bottom of it." Fuck! I did put that on there over a decade prior, and I completely forgot. That certainly was convenient for future-me. Anyhow, it took a couple of days for them to finish their bureaucratic paperwork dance, and then I had my bike (that I didn't even know I was missing) back. Thanks, in large part, to having some identifying features.
sleepydog 2y ago
I just owned a cheap bicycle that I wasn't afraid to lose. There's loads of used steel-frame bikes from the 90s that ride just fine after a tune-up and cost less than $100. The U-lock and the slightly beat-up exterior seemed to put off any would-be bike thieves here in NYC. But if/when it finally gets taken I won't be too upset. Depends on where you live, of course.
prmoustache 2y ago
Once you reach a critical mass where almost everybody own a bike, theft becomes less of an issue. Theft is a big issue during the transition phase when a city is becoming more and more cycling friendly and a lot of people are actually looking for a bike.
tim333 2y ago
You can get an old rusty one off facebook market or similar for not much money. The thieves ignore them for the fancier looking bikes. Both my previous ones left on the street in London died through impact rather than theft - the first by the police removing it as a terrorist hazzard(!) and the second by someone crashing into it. Which is another advantage of cheap bikes.

Also cheap: bike insurance, with "we'll drop your new bike within 1hr of you reporting the theft" SLAs. At least, where I live... (and where my last bike was stolen, like, over a decade ago).

latentcall 2y ago

When I was in Amsterdam it seemed most people had cheap beater bikes for that very reason. If someone had a nicer bike they’d bring it into their flat.

bradlys 2y ago
Doesn’t really help if you’re going out to places and there’s nowhere to bring your bike into. E.g. a restaurant.
- prmoustache 2y ago
  I have been spending a few days in another french city and seen some bikes stored at the back of some restaurants, next to the toilets. Sure it can t be applied to all restaurants but cyclists can choose their place of choice based on how cycling friendly they are.
milkytron 2y ago
I do this in Denver, where bike theft is supposedly rampant. Never had an issue, and I live in one of the worse areas and will leave my bike parked and unattended for hours at a time. I also sticker bombed one of my bikes so that if someone were to steal it, it would be very easily identifiable.
- giraffe_lady 2y ago
  What does identifying it do for you? I had a bike stolen a few years ago and I've seen it a handful of times since then. Police are not interested in this in my experience, basically told me to pound sand. Are you going to steal it back or what?
  - milkytron 2y ago
    As of now, I haven't ever needed to steal a bike back. I view it more as theft deterrent. They'll be less likely to be able sell it, and it makes the bike look like it's not as valuable.
  - ssl-3 2y ago
    I've had bikes stolen a few times -- in the midwestern US, and mostly as a kid where my bike was not generally stored very securely. Usually, they're just...gone. The police around here do collect bikes that they find dumped in places where they don't belong -- in parks or when reported in random folks' yards or wherever. These get auctioned off if not claimed first. But I did get my bikes back a few times. Most memorably, I was doing some random technical work at the local PD and was heading out to have a smoke, and I saw a bike that looked just like mine just standing there on the back dock. Same purple Caloi aluminum frame, same additions (like the 90s-style Control Stix bar ends), same everything, except it had an inventory tag on it. Which very seemed strange to me, since I knew very well that my bike was safe at home. Or did I know that? Maybe my bike wasn't safe at home. Or maybe someone else had the same mods on their own bike, which wasn't particularly unlikely since I bought all of it from a singular bike shop in town? So I asked about it. And they're like "Well, if that's your bike, then maybe you can tell us something about it that is identifiable. Something unique that you couldn't see in the five minutes you've been standing there staring at it." I couldn't think of anything. But that ultimately didn't matter -- they were fucking with me for the lulz. "Maybe you don't remember doing this," they continued, "but it's got your name, address, and phone number engraved on the bottom of it." Fuck! I did put that on there over a decade prior, and I completely forgot. That certainly was convenient for future-me. Anyhow, it took a couple of days for them to finish their bureaucratic paperwork dance, and then I had my bike (that I didn't even know I was missing) back. Thanks, in large part, to having some identifying features.

sleepydog 2y ago

I just owned a cheap bicycle that I wasn't afraid to lose. There's loads of used steel-frame bikes from the 90s that ride just fine after a tune-up and cost less than $100. The U-lock and the slightly beat-up exterior seemed to put off any would-be bike thieves here in NYC. But if/when it finally gets taken I won't be too upset. Depends on where you live, of course.

prmoustache 2y ago

Once you reach a critical mass where almost everybody own a bike, theft becomes less of an issue. Theft is a big issue during the transition phase when a city is becoming more and more cycling friendly and a lot of people are actually looking for a bike.

tim333 2y ago

You can get an old rusty one off facebook market or similar for not much money. The thieves ignore them for the fancier looking bikes. Both my previous ones left on the street in London died through impact rather than theft - the first by the police removing it as a terrorist hazzard(!) and the second by someone crashing into it. Which is another advantage of cheap bikes.