>Tell that to an unfit or elderly person trying to cycle uphill, or people with kids. Why tell them anything? Having more options is not going to stop them fro

>Tell that to an unfit or elderly person trying to cycle uphill, or people with kids. Why tell them anything? Having more options is not going to stop them from driving. They have elderly people and kids in the netherlands. When you oppose alternative modes of transportation, what do you tell: * The elderly * Kids (that half of the sentence when you mentioned "people with kids") * People with disabilities like spatial awareness, mental disabilities etc * People with other disabilities who would LOVE a cycle lane for their motorized wheelchairs * People who just aren't good at the wheel and who (thankfully) can't pass the driving test For them it's not a small drop in convenience, it's their whole life. "tell that to..." really doesn't go in the direction you think it goes. Driving is not an "accessible" form of transportation, and it's most likely one of the first things that could get taken away from you by a life event. It's not the right approach to start worrying about a slight decrease in convenience for those who somehow got a life event that'll allow them to drive, but not walk, use a wheelchair or bike.