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Eh, here's the not-so-nice way of saying the same thing: >> When the virus-laden beef patties were cooked to 120°F degrees (rare), however, the tests found evi

Eh, here's the not-so-nice way of saying the same thing: >> When the virus-laden beef patties were cooked to 120°F degrees (rare), however, the tests found evidence of the virus, but at much reduced levels [0] Sorry, to your point about handling... if this is prevalent in fat and muscle tissue of otherwise healthy cattle then it is totally unlike pathogens introduced during slaughter, packing, grinding or food prep handling. Do you understand what I mean? Prior to this, other than prion diseases, pathogens inside muscle tissue basically did not exist in the modern beef meat supply. The only pathogens were introduced onto the outer surface during slaughter or handling. Cut away the outside and don't put it through a grinder and you can eat any piece of beef from a US supermarket raw. Up until now. Now we're talking about the interior volume of everything being loaded with a live virus. That drastically increases risk in handling and consumption. [0] https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-experiments-suggest-h5n1-not-viable-properly-cooked-ground-beef https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-exp...

ssl-3 2y ago
Neat. I see words. None of those words support the initial claim that the CDC has issued guidance to cook steaks to 160F, which is a claim that at this point I can only believe to be a fabrication that was made in bad faith. I do not wish to spend any time at all determining which of your other claims may also be fabricated.
- DoodahMan 2y ago
  > None of those words support the initial claim that the CDC has issued guidance to cook steaks to 160F, which is a claim that at this point I can only believe to be a fabrication that was made in bad faith. it was not the CDC but the USDA [0]: > Bird flu virus particles were found in beef tissue taken from one dairy cow sent to be slaughtered for meat, and meat from the animal did not enter the food supply, USDA said last month. > The agency has reported that no viral particles were found in samples of ground beef collected at retail stores, and that no bird flu virus was found after cooking ground beef to medium to well done, after it was injected with a virus surrogate as part of an experiment. day by day, imo, this virus is inching closer to humans. recently house mice were found to be infected [1]. it's becoming a bit reminiscent of late 2019. [0] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cows-infected-with-bird-flu-have-died-five-us-states-2024-06-06/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cows-infected-with-bird-flu... [1] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/why-the-discovery-of-h5n1-bird-flu-in-mice-is-so-alarming/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-diseas...
  - ssl-3 2y ago
    Nothing in the provided link [0] guides people towards cooking steaks to 160F. Not from the CDC, nor the USDA, nor the FDA, nor any other body. 0: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cows-infected-with-bird-flu-have-died-five-us-states-2024-06-06/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cows-infected-with-bird-flu...

ssl-3 2y ago

Neat. I see words. None of those words support the initial claim that the CDC has issued guidance to cook steaks to 160F, which is a claim that at this point I can only believe to be a fabrication that was made in bad faith. I do not wish to spend any time at all determining which of your other claims may also be fabricated.

DoodahMan 2y ago
> None of those words support the initial claim that the CDC has issued guidance to cook steaks to 160F, which is a claim that at this point I can only believe to be a fabrication that was made in bad faith. it was not the CDC but the USDA [0]: > Bird flu virus particles were found in beef tissue taken from one dairy cow sent to be slaughtered for meat, and meat from the animal did not enter the food supply, USDA said last month. > The agency has reported that no viral particles were found in samples of ground beef collected at retail stores, and that no bird flu virus was found after cooking ground beef to medium to well done, after it was injected with a virus surrogate as part of an experiment. day by day, imo, this virus is inching closer to humans. recently house mice were found to be infected [1]. it's becoming a bit reminiscent of late 2019. [0] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cows-infected-with-bird-flu-have-died-five-us-states-2024-06-06/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cows-infected-with-bird-flu... [1] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/why-the-discovery-of-h5n1-bird-flu-in-mice-is-so-alarming/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-diseas...
- ssl-3 2y ago
  Nothing in the provided link [0] guides people towards cooking steaks to 160F. Not from the CDC, nor the USDA, nor the FDA, nor any other body. 0: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cows-infected-with-bird-flu-have-died-five-us-states-2024-06-06/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cows-infected-with-bird-flu...