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Are they aligned because they are famous, or are they famous because they are aligned? Or are they aligned because if I pick 7 famous monuments aligned I can dr
by logtempo 2y ago
Are they aligned because they are famous, or are they famous because they are aligned? Or are they aligned because if I pick 7 famous monuments aligned I can draw a line, look over my shoulder and say "ho look, if we draw a line it match!"
From wikipedia, the list of St Michael churches:
St. Michael's Church (disambiguation)
Parroquia de San Miguel Arcángel (es), San Miguel de Allende, Guanajuato Mexico World Heritage Site
Sacra di San Michele (Saint Michael's Abbey), near Turin, Italy
Pfarrei Brixen St. Michael with the White Tower, Brixen, Italy
Cathedral of St. Michael and St. Gudula, in Brussels, Belgium
Mont Saint-Michel, Normandy, France – a World Heritage Site
St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica (Toronto), Canada
St. Michael's Cathedral (Izhevsk), Russia
St. Michael's Cathedral, Qingdao, China
Chudov Monastery in the Moscow Kremlin
Cathedral of the Archangel in the Moscow Kremlin – a World Heritage Site
Sanctuary of Monte Sant'Angelo, Gargano, Italy – a World Heritage Site
St Michael's Mount, Cornwall, UK
St. Michael, Minnesota
St. Michael's Basilica, Miramichi, Canada
Skellig Michael, off the Irish west coast – a World Heritage Site
St Michael's Cathedral, Coventry, UK
St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery, Kyiv, Ukraine
St. Michael's Church, Vienna in Vienna, Austria
Tayabas Basilica, Tayabas, Quezon, Philippines
St. Michael's Church, Berlin, Germany
San Miguel Church (Manila), Philippines
St. Michael's Jesuit church, Munich, Germany
St. Michael's Cathedral, Belgrade in Belgrade, Serbia
Cathedral of St. Michael the Archangel in Gamu, Isabela, Philippines
Mission San Miguel Arcángel, San Miguel, California, United States, one of the California Missions
St Michael at the North Gate, Oxford, UK
St. Michael's Roman Catholic church, Cluj-Napoca, Romania
St. Michael's Church, Mumbai, India
Church of St. Michael, Štip, Republic of North Macedonia
St Michael and All Angels Church, Polwatte
St Michael's Church, Churchill, UK
San Miguel Arcangel Church, Marilao, Bulacan, Philippines
San Miguel Arcangel Church, San Miguel, Bulacan, Philippines
St Michael the Archangel, Llanyblodwel, England
- Maken 2y agoBut only 7 of those are Cathedrals, and only those are aligned.
- tecleandor 2y agoI think none of them are cathedrals. There's a couple islands, a mount, a shrine, a monastery, a temple...
- rob74 2y agoYup... actually the linked Wikipedia page doesn't use the word "cathedrals", but they are remarkable in other ways (long history, pilgrimage sites etc.). Ok, Skellig Michael is now remembered mainly for being Luke Skywalker's island in Star Wars VII/VIII, but still...
- jfengel 2y agoIt annoyed me as soon as it appeared at the tail end of TLJ. I've wanted to visit it for a long time, but it's a bit of a hassle to get to. I can only imagine that it's even harder now that it's a pilgrimage site for Star Wars fans, and not just rock-botherers like myself.
- throw46365 2y agoThe fact that St Michael's Mount is on this line is enough to show that it is nonsense. It's an unbelievably lovely place and it was a site for pilgrims, but its ecclesiastical connection to St Michael is relatively weedy; a brief period of time. It's far more interesting to me that Perkin Warbeck occupied it!
- nabla9 2y ago>.. are aligned. Only on Mercator projection that is younger than many of the sites on the line. Oder of things: 1. There were bunch of monasteries (not cathedrals), not aligned on any direct line. 2. Mercator invented a projection. 3. Someone looked at map using Mercator a projection and invented story about ley lines.
- weberer 2y agoI think too much weight in this discussion is given to the Mercator projection since that's the specific one we use today. People were making 2D maps for much longer than that. Flat maps existed in the medieval era.
- simonh 2y agoThere are apparently 816 churches dedicated to the saint in England alone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedications_in_the_Church_of_England#Most_common_dedications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedications_in_the_Church_of_E...
- Archelaos 2y agoThis Wikipedia list has a lot more St. Michael's churches: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Michael%27s_Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Michael%27s_Church Around 150 in Europe alone. For the next hackaton: Write a programme to find all possible approximately straight lines between any 7 of these churches.
- acjohnson55 2y agoAlso, allow the map projection to vary, to produce lines of different curvatures.
- mikhailfranco 2y agoThere really are many more. I know of 3 in a small area of Somerset not on the list, but 2 of them are ruined, and hence not currently dedicated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St_Michael_and_All_Angels,_Somerton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St_Michael_and_All_A... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrow_Mump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrow_Mump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glastonbury_Tor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glastonbury_Tor Churches were often dedicated to St. Michael when they were built over pagan sanctuaries, because St. Michael could fight the old heathen devil. Another example would be in Brent Knoll, next to the iron age hill fort: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael%27s_Church,_Brent_Knoll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael%27s_Church,_Brent_K... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Knoll_Camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Knoll_Camp That is undoubtedly the case for both St. Michael's Mount (Cornwall) and Mont Saint Michel (Normandy) in the list of 7. They are both perfect defensive sites, on islands close to the shore, but accessible by causeways at low tide, and hence certainly occupied from prehistoric times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael%27s_Mount https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael%27s_Mount https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont-Saint-Michel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont-Saint-Michel
- mikhailfranco 2y agoP.S. I added these to Wikipedia, but note there is a whole separate page for Michael with All his Angels: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael_and_All_Angels_Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael_and_All_Angels_Chur...
- AdmiralAsshat 2y agoSee: ley lines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line?wprov=sfla1
- mikehotel 2y agoAlso: Alignments of random points https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignments_of_random_points https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignments_of_random_points
- abrenuntio 2y agoDefinitely not ordinary places. Perhaps Stella Maris, the end point, is the most fascinating of all because of its association with the prophet Elijah.
- aworks 2y agoI don't particularly care if if these line up, but I find the list interesting: Multiple churches in the Philippines presumably due to Spanish Catholicism. I didn't grow up in California so I don't know the Spanish missions very well (standard elementary school fare). I had never heard of San Miguel. I've also never heard of Polwatte or Miramichi. Two churches in the "Moscow Kremlin?" What's that about? And what's the story about Qingdao? And why just the name of a state, Minnesota, instead of a more precise location? Then I go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Michael%27s_Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Michael%27s_Church and it disambiguates from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael_and_All_Angels_Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael_and_All_Angels_Chur.... Finally, yet another long list in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Saint_Michael https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Saint_Michael