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i dont understand why everyone is so confused and outraged. first off, it doesnt affect you. even if you do buy a microsoft laptop that is being marketed as t

i dont understand why everyone is so confused and outraged. first off, it doesnt affect you. even if you do buy a microsoft laptop that is being marketed as the "ai powered technology revolotion" (or whatever), its shipping from the start with almost all the tools i can think of to help you only recall what you want. application exclusion by ifn, pause the stored data / purge stored data / or opt out forever. if you use edge, you can have it ignore incognito tabs or certain websites. The feature needs to be opt in without these restrictions set up because the people who might actually benefit here are people who don't want to be bothered with those power user features. like my grandma. anyone who is worried about screenshots leaking, do you guys remember photoshop? we already have keyloggers, banking trojans, infostealers, and for someone to access your recall screenshots they'll be in a position to infect your laptop with all the usual suspects in commodity malware. so they could start logging your keystrokes, pilfer your chrome browsing data, or they could start downloading a 25 GB file that they can't even decrypt, and (lets just allow them to decrpyt somehow). now they get the pleasure of looking through 25 gb of cat pics and reddit hoping they might find a picture of you logging into your bank where you toggle the show password field button. or maybe you don't ever reveal the password so he gets really mad because his ISP only gives him 30GB down / month and he just burned nearly all of it. he decides to dox you and your data, but there isnt anything connecting your real identity to these screenshots (which again, couldve been photoshopped, or you could create your win11 username as Sam Altman). And none of this is even going to happen this would be the first time ive ever heard of a hands on keyboard commodity malware controller who is targeting whomever he can breach and rather than just sitting back while keyloggers and bots phone home and exfil sensitive data as text in an automated way, he's at home dealing with these massive encrpyted archive files and bajillions of screenshots. everyone be triflin' over some bullshit here, you guys know why they did this right, not because its useful or a good use of AI. all the big guys are racing to cash in on the consumer AI market and they want to tell wall st on the quarterly earnings reports that theyve got a new go to market strategy with AI and its going to lead to N revenue, and instead of slightly faster hardware the next surface launch is gonna be huge marketing event and if you guys in nyc want to bet on ai for consumers, buy more microsoft stock. isnt this obvious my friends?

WhackyIdeas 2y ago
To think it’s purely money is utterly naive. It’s surveillance tech for the NSA which ALSO makes Microsoft a packet.
- bsmartt 2y ago
  The nsa doesn’t need recall to gather signals. They can gather higher fidelity data directly as text, network traffic. If the historical data is what concerns you, that assumes the nsa wants to sneak in and then sneak out, but they will just stay there forever. Why only 3 months when you could stay forever.
  - WhackyIdeas 2y ago
    Again. Utterly bonkers naive. Stupendously naive. It’d be so much easier to have recall store the data and then have the processor power do the AI analytics on the data. You also fail to remember the past. Microsoft has a history of changing security settings with updates. Just because the data is stored locally just now does NOT mean that in a few updates time that they won’t change it. If you genuinely cannot see that it is the slow introduction of powerful NSA surveillance tech, it just means you don’t know Microsoft enough. NSAKey and Prism - Windows has always been about NSA. This particular surveillance software is leaps better than anything which has become before it, because now they can make the users computers do all the processing and storage. It is vastly superior than their other techniques in so many ways than the methods you mentioned. Another thing you seem to mix up is that why would NSA have to do all the hard work to surveil system like you mentioned? They can simply hop on to the connections Windows makes to it’s own Microsoft servers. In the same way that AT&T historically had a NSA room in their premises which the entire network went through.
sanitycheck 2y ago
This is Microsoft building an automated AI corporate panopticon. Its presence on every PC will enable and normalise hitherto unseen levels of surveillance and control over employees. It ain't a good thing.

WhackyIdeas 2y ago

To think it’s purely money is utterly naive. It’s surveillance tech for the NSA which ALSO makes Microsoft a packet.

bsmartt 2y ago
The nsa doesn’t need recall to gather signals. They can gather higher fidelity data directly as text, network traffic. If the historical data is what concerns you, that assumes the nsa wants to sneak in and then sneak out, but they will just stay there forever. Why only 3 months when you could stay forever.
- WhackyIdeas 2y ago
  Again. Utterly bonkers naive. Stupendously naive. It’d be so much easier to have recall store the data and then have the processor power do the AI analytics on the data. You also fail to remember the past. Microsoft has a history of changing security settings with updates. Just because the data is stored locally just now does NOT mean that in a few updates time that they won’t change it. If you genuinely cannot see that it is the slow introduction of powerful NSA surveillance tech, it just means you don’t know Microsoft enough. NSAKey and Prism - Windows has always been about NSA. This particular surveillance software is leaps better than anything which has become before it, because now they can make the users computers do all the processing and storage. It is vastly superior than their other techniques in so many ways than the methods you mentioned. Another thing you seem to mix up is that why would NSA have to do all the hard work to surveil system like you mentioned? They can simply hop on to the connections Windows makes to it’s own Microsoft servers. In the same way that AT&T historically had a NSA room in their premises which the entire network went through.

sanitycheck 2y ago

This is Microsoft building an automated AI corporate panopticon. Its presence on every PC will enable and normalise hitherto unseen levels of surveillance and control over employees. It ain't a good thing.