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Hetzner lowers pricing of Intel cloud servers
- re-thc 2y agoGood timing for everyone that keeps "complaining" that the "cloud" is expensive. This cloud isn't just AWS. There are lots of options.
- slau 2y agoIf you believe Hetzner is a “cloud” platform like AWS, just because they offer VPSs and some form of block storage, you might want to explore beyond the EC2 section of your AWS console.
- re-thc 2y agoDoesn't mean you can't replace the EC2 parts with Hetzner cloud. If you believe I said Hetzner = AWS just because I said it's also a cloud then what can I do... Everything comes in different shapes and forms. Just because it's not AWS "cloud" doesn't mean it is useless.
- ckdarby 2y agoIt does mean you can't just replace EC2 because the AWS egress bandwidth costs will eat you alive. I'm shocked DOJ has not gone after cloud providers for using egress bandwidth as a monopoly tactic.
- immibis 2y agoIt does mean you should use Hetzner from the beginning, because the Hetzner egress bandwidth costs will not eat you alive. But what's with cloud, anyway? Hetzner Cloud is for cheap VPSes. Get a real server at Hetzner and you also get way more compute and storage for the same price as any cloud, as long as the higher price floor doesn't bother you. (There are no $5/mo dedicated servers. Even Raspberry Pi hosting usually costs more than that.)
- nijave 2y ago>I'm shocked DOJ has not gone after cloud providers Well, I think so far only Europe has forced free data export if you're changing providers. We'll see if they continue. I won't hold my breath over DOJ...
- toast0 2y agoDepends on what you're doing. If you're running conferencing, there's no data to migrate, so it should be possible to move to somewhere with reasonable bandwidth costs and save money easily, if it's just vms. If you're doing media sharing, maybe don't migrate data all at once, but upload new stuff to the new place, and at some point move downloads of old stuff on demand: users make request to new place, new place fetches from old place, saves and sends to user --- you were going to pay that egress to users anyway and now you won't have to pay it again. If you've amassed a giant database that would otherwise never leave, then yeah, that's going to be expensive to move... But maybe you can get a free egress to leave offer? Note that I think Hetzner includes 'unlimited' egress on dedicated machines, not on cloud vms; but their per TB prices are much more reasonable than big cloud's per GB prices.
- chipdart 2y ago> If you believe Hetzner is a “cloud” platform like AWS (...) Hetzner is a cloud platform. I don't think this is up for discussion. Hetzner does have a far more limited catalog of managed services. It provides no function-as-a-service solution, metrics, kubernetes, etc. That's fine.
- johnydoe 2y agoI’m not familiar with their original pricing, can anyone list the changes?
- Havoc 2y agoI seem to recall they had intel and and at same
- matteocontrini 2y agoPreviously (prices are without VAT and the 0,50 € for IPv4): | Name | vCPU | RAM | SSD | Price | |------|------|------|-------|--------| | CX11 | 1 | 2 GB | 20 GB | 3,29 €| | CX21 | 2 | 4 GB | 40 GB | 4,85 €| | CX31 | 2 | 8 GB | 80 GB | 9,20 €| | CX41 | 4 | 16 GB| 160 GB| 16,90 €| | CX51 | 8 | 32 GB| 240 GB| 32,40 €| Now: | Name | vCPU | RAM | SSD | Price | |------|------|------|-------|--------| | CX22 | 2 | 4 GB | 40 GB | 3,29 €| | CX32 | 4 | 8 GB | 80 GB | 6,30 €| | CX42 | 8 | 16 GB| 160 GB| 15,90 €| | CX52 | 16 | 32 GB| 320 GB| 31,90 €|
- blitzar 2y agoThey had a lot of room after 3x'ing the prices a year or two ago, passing on their increased electricity costs.
- Rinzler89 2y agoThey wouldn't have had such increased energy costs had their data centers not been in Germany. There's a reason most are in the Nordics, UK, France etc. cold-ish places and/or with cheap energy.
- blitzar 2y agoThey did put up their prices in Holland and Finland datacenters. Electricity in the UK is ~20% more than in Germany (according to the UK government https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/international-industrial-energy-prices https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/internat...) so there isnt really a good reason to put the UK on that list.
- Hetzner_OL 2y agoI am a bit confused with your comment. We at Hetzner don't have any data centers in Holland. --Katie
- blitzar 2y agoMy appologies - I was misremembering your locations. Germany and Finland and indeed no Amsterdam.
- Hetzner_OL 2y agoNo worries. It can be hard to keep all the different providers' locations straight. --Katie
- szszrk 2y agoThe trip through their DC that is on YouTube (that I found on HN) actually stated that they use electricity for ac just a few times per year during most extreme heat days.
- jsheard 2y agoTheir ARM boxes are still a bit cheaper, but with the Intel prices being that close now it's probably worth the small premium just to not have to juggle two different architectures for container images. Unless you're an all-Mac shop I suppose, then ARM servers would be the path of least resistance.
- okr 2y agoOr use java. Write once, run everywhere. I am still amazed, that the switch to arm was so easy.
- stephankoelle 2y agoSame here, everything just worked on their arm. Podman, fedora core os via terraform, mvnw, jabbaw Just checkout and run. Awsome experience.
- stephankoelle 2y agoI even could make a Quarkus native build with graalvm on the machine.
- manmanic 2y agoBeen using Hetzner Cloud for 18 months now, for various servers. Has proven incredibly reliable. Together with a very clear and straightforward management panel and unbeatable (AFAIK) performance/pricing, I haven't found a downside. A good alternative to their dedicated servers (which are also great) if you need more flexibility or less capacity.
- qwertox 2y agoI've been a happy customer of Netcup for many years now. If you don't need automation but just servers which you know you'll be running for years, they have a better price/performance ratio than Hetzner. But you should wait for their seasonal discounts, like easter, summer or the like, where they have really good offerings. Hetzner is more professional, though.
- v3ss0n 2y agoStill alot more expensive than Phoenixnap while a lot less available DC.
- cvwright 2y agoBut a lot easier to get started and do simple things. The "dedicated server" / "private cloud" market is a garbage fire of manual one-off hackery where you have to talk to a human in order to do relatively simple things that are a couple of clicks on even "2nd tier" VPS platforms. Want to increase the limit for the number of servers on your account? Call us. Want to add a new employee to your team? Call us. Earlier this year, my team evaluated about 10 different providers, including PhoenixNAP, and only maybe 2-3 of them allowed us to (1) create an account, (2) add team members, and (3) deploy a server without manual intervention. And often these simple tasks required multiple rounds of manual debugging with the support team.
- esafak 2y agoDid Phoenixnap make the cut?
- cvwright 2y agoWe had to contact them in order to add team members. Which still put them in the top 2 or 3.
- v3ss0n 2y agoYeah , that is the thing about it , totally human centered operation approach lol. Also their billing system is so bad that i wanted to replace it for free. But their servers are top notch .
- jimmydoe 2y agoStill not in the US
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