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I'm a bit torn. While there's something nice about the simplicity of an 8-bit device and DIP packages, I've come to enjoy ARM's Serial Wire Debug, and ARM tooli
by guitarbill 2y ago
I'm a bit torn. While there's something nice about the simplicity of an 8-bit device and DIP packages, I've come to enjoy ARM's Serial Wire Debug, and ARM tooling. Definitely don't miss avr-gcc and avrdude.
In a way, it's ironic. The AVR tooling back in the day was just so much better than PIC (for a novice hobbyist, pre-Arduino).
- aldami 2y agoAh, the good old days where computers had a serial port and you could assemble an AVR programmer on a breadboard to flash an AVR and build a USB programmer.. Programmer bootstrapping ? But you're right, the tooling has come a long way. The proliferation of ARM in so many domains means lowly microcontrollers can benefit, as opposed to being bound by the manufacturer or community size. Hopefully RISC-V will improve this even further.
- SomeoneFromCA 2y agoThe simpest AVR programer, widely used in ex-USSR was called "5 wires" and consisted of 5 wires, ic-socket and 25 pin connector for the parallel port.
- crest 2y agoThree resistors and a parallel port?
- hashtag-til 2y ago> Hopefully RISC-V will improve this even further. In was more hopeful in past then I'm now with the RISCV ecosystem. The issue there is fragmentation, so it's not RISCV... every vendor will have their tooling because they'll be adding their secret sauce that they wont be sharing with everyone else, which is a shame.
- clumsysmurf 2y ago> The AVR tooling back in the day was just so much better than PIC I'm disappointment MPLAB X Ide only supports x86 Macs. Also, release 6.20 was Jan 2024 so the release cycles are pretty long... doesn't inspire confidence.