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By pirating, you mean running modified binaries from unknown sources? Morals aside, how is that safe, secure, or even convenient?

by hjkl0 2y ago

Lammy 2y ago
I'll take my chances. Adobe have proven they want to spy on me 100% of the time and shake me down for as much cash as possible. Pirates ostensibly have to compete on the quality of the product they offer.
grishka 2y ago
I've been doing it all my life. I've literally never paid for a software license, I don't know any better. In general, I usually download from reputable sources. Haven't had any problems so far.
- iLoveOncall 2y ago
  > Haven't had any problems so far. That you know of. For all you know you could be infected and part of a botnet. Viruses don't open a big popup saying "haha you've been hacked!". This line of thinking is extremely common and absolutely nonsensical. The point of a virus is to remain undetected.
  - Lammy 2y ago
    > undetected If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
    - noman-land 2y ago
      If a tree falls in the forest and kills someone but no one around to be sad, did they really die?
      - Lammy 2y ago
        U=U :)
  - walteweiss 2y ago
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    - southernplaces7 2y ago
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      - walteweiss 2y ago
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        longerd2 2y ago
        > A racist? Do you even know what a race is? Is Russian a race now, huh? In other words: "I'm not racist, I don't categorize by race. Do you even know what a race is? You have categorized Russians wrongly. It is part of a race, not it's own one..."
        walteweiss 2y ago
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    - grishka 2y ago
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      - walteweiss 2y ago
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        grishka 2y ago
        > You understand the copyright, but you don’t respect it. That’s the idea. I understand stupid ideas, but I'm not required to respect them. Make the copyright last 3 years instead of an eternity, or make copyright holders pay an exponentially increasing tax, per copyrighted work, to extend it every year, then I'll reconsider. > You’re okay with having your Photoshop, but for free. Yes I am. Proudly. Why should I care? Adobe won't sell me a subscription even if I wanted one, btw. Because I'm Russian. If I were into making compromises to prove things, I'd be using desktop Linux. And Adobe isn't a small startup struggling to make ends meet. They would've still been profitable even if no one paid for their products for personal use and their only paying customers were businesses. > As Russia is a democratic country indeed. And that is the way of overthrowing a dictator, voting against him on the next ballot. Doing anything else is futile, obviously. I'm open to suggestions. You can also come here and try to overthrow him yourself if you think we're doing such a poor job of it. I'll be sure to take a picture of you getting arrested.
  - antifa 2y ago
    A botnet that shows no evidence of saturating my CPU, RAM, disk, network? OK fine then. Most malware these days does things like demand bitcoin, popup ads, or upload your files to the cloud without your consent. If I've actually unknowingly downloaded a virus, it's honestly less malevolent than the paid version.
    - freedomben 2y ago
      > If I've actually unknowingly downloaded a virus, it's honestly less malevolent than the paid version. This is a remarkable observation on the sad state of paid software. It's so sad because it's so true. I don't mind buying software, but I do mind pretty much all DRM implementations. Even simple license checks have bitten me in the past when I had no internet access and the software just decided that time was up and it needed to verify me. Nothing fills me with rage more than software that I paid for refusing to run while I'm camping or on a plane or somewhere else without internet, for software that doesn't need any networt functionality whatsoever to operate.
  - nottorp 2y ago
    :) reputable torrent sources usually have a comment section and viruses are found and the torrent nuked faster than you get around to downloading the stuff...
realusername 2y ago
We're in a world where the legal solution isn't exactly safe, secure nor convenient either
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npteljes 2y ago
I agree with you, but on a practical level, private trackers are moderated, and so, reasonably safe and secure. Convenience is case by case. Often, the official stuff puts up such a fuss that the pirated copy is more convenient to use.
immibis 2y ago
No, from known sources.
anal_reactor 2y ago
>be me >"Google wants to know your location" >fuck off you already know it anyway >"Do you want to allow this app from an unknown publisher to make changes to your device? PiratedGameFromRussianTorrents.exe" >ok The biggest problem with piracy is the entry barrier. You need to know what sites are safe, what aren't. Also, Google hides results from torrent sites, so yeah, it's kind of an underground club. If you're a newbie you're going to get ransomware, if you know the basics it's trivial. Piracy isn't as popular as 10 years ago, but it's still there, mostly powered by poor countries.
nottorp 2y ago
> or even convenient Back before Steam, when I bought a game on disc I downloaded the no-cd crack before opening the box to install it...

By pirating, you mean running modified binaries from unknown sources? Morals aside, how is that safe, secure, or even convenient?

by hjkl0 2y ago

By pirating, you mean running modified binaries from unknown sources? Morals aside, how is that safe, secure, or even convenient?

Lammy 2y ago

I'll take my chances. Adobe have proven they want to spy on me 100% of the time and shake me down for as much cash as possible. Pirates ostensibly have to compete on the quality of the product they offer.

grishka 2y ago

I've been doing it all my life. I've literally never paid for a software license, I don't know any better. In general, I usually download from reputable sources. Haven't had any problems so far.

iLoveOncall 2y ago
> Haven't had any problems so far. That you know of. For all you know you could be infected and part of a botnet. Viruses don't open a big popup saying "haha you've been hacked!". This line of thinking is extremely common and absolutely nonsensical. The point of a virus is to remain undetected.
- Lammy 2y ago
  > undetected If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
  - noman-land 2y ago
    If a tree falls in the forest and kills someone but no one around to be sad, did they really die?
    - Lammy 2y ago
      U=U :)
- walteweiss 2y ago
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  - southernplaces7 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - walteweiss 2y ago
      [flagged]
      - longerd2 2y ago
        > A racist? Do you even know what a race is? Is Russian a race now, huh? In other words: "I'm not racist, I don't categorize by race. Do you even know what a race is? You have categorized Russians wrongly. It is part of a race, not it's own one..."
        walteweiss 2y ago
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  - grishka 2y ago
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    - walteweiss 2y ago
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      - grishka 2y ago
        > You understand the copyright, but you don’t respect it. That’s the idea. I understand stupid ideas, but I'm not required to respect them. Make the copyright last 3 years instead of an eternity, or make copyright holders pay an exponentially increasing tax, per copyrighted work, to extend it every year, then I'll reconsider. > You’re okay with having your Photoshop, but for free. Yes I am. Proudly. Why should I care? Adobe won't sell me a subscription even if I wanted one, btw. Because I'm Russian. If I were into making compromises to prove things, I'd be using desktop Linux. And Adobe isn't a small startup struggling to make ends meet. They would've still been profitable even if no one paid for their products for personal use and their only paying customers were businesses. > As Russia is a democratic country indeed. And that is the way of overthrowing a dictator, voting against him on the next ballot. Doing anything else is futile, obviously. I'm open to suggestions. You can also come here and try to overthrow him yourself if you think we're doing such a poor job of it. I'll be sure to take a picture of you getting arrested.
- antifa 2y ago
  A botnet that shows no evidence of saturating my CPU, RAM, disk, network? OK fine then. Most malware these days does things like demand bitcoin, popup ads, or upload your files to the cloud without your consent. If I've actually unknowingly downloaded a virus, it's honestly less malevolent than the paid version.
  - freedomben 2y ago
    > If I've actually unknowingly downloaded a virus, it's honestly less malevolent than the paid version. This is a remarkable observation on the sad state of paid software. It's so sad because it's so true. I don't mind buying software, but I do mind pretty much all DRM implementations. Even simple license checks have bitten me in the past when I had no internet access and the software just decided that time was up and it needed to verify me. Nothing fills me with rage more than software that I paid for refusing to run while I'm camping or on a plane or somewhere else without internet, for software that doesn't need any networt functionality whatsoever to operate.
- nottorp 2y ago
  :) reputable torrent sources usually have a comment section and viruses are found and the torrent nuked faster than you get around to downloading the stuff...

realusername 2y ago

We're in a world where the legal solution isn't exactly safe, secure nor convenient either

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npteljes 2y ago

I agree with you, but on a practical level, private trackers are moderated, and so, reasonably safe and secure. Convenience is case by case. Often, the official stuff puts up such a fuss that the pirated copy is more convenient to use.

immibis 2y ago

No, from known sources.

anal_reactor 2y ago

>be me >"Google wants to know your location" >fuck off you already know it anyway >"Do you want to allow this app from an unknown publisher to make changes to your device? PiratedGameFromRussianTorrents.exe" >ok The biggest problem with piracy is the entry barrier. You need to know what sites are safe, what aren't. Also, Google hides results from torrent sites, so yeah, it's kind of an underground club. If you're a newbie you're going to get ransomware, if you know the basics it's trivial. Piracy isn't as popular as 10 years ago, but it's still there, mostly powered by poor countries.

nottorp 2y ago

> or even convenient Back before Steam, when I bought a game on disc I downloaded the no-cd crack before opening the box to install it...