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That's "Périphérique", not "Périférique".

by johncoltrane 2y ago

baobun 2y ago
Spoken like a true Parisian!
- galaxyLogic 2y ago
  Yes, no true Scotsman would say so :-)
astrobe_ 2y ago
Yes, it's the same greek root as "peripheral". A "périphérique" is a main road tha goes around the city. Paris' peripherique is called Le périphérique because it is famous a probably the largest in France. TFA opens with somewhat weird mentions to immigration waves, which become more concerning when we learn the author works at Le Point, a publication that favors right wing political points of view, but they eventually fairly describe (I think) the physical and demographic evolution of the metropolis. FWIW "immigrant-descended communities" is the politically correct way to call people that don't have Nos ancêtres les Gaulois* - "our fathers the Gauls", is a phrase that refers to what was taught in schools until approx. the generation of Boomers, and has become a cliché as it has become more and more untrue - if it ever was true. It can be interpreted as racist in specific cases.
- kergonath 2y ago
  > TFA opens with somewhat weird mentions to immigration waves, which become more concerning when we learn the author works at Le Point, a publication that favors right wing political points of view, but they eventually fairly describe (I think) the physical and demographic evolution of the metropolis. Let’s not get carried away. Le Point is fairly mainstream liberal magazine. Yes, it is right-wing, but it is not Valeurs Actuelles.
  - astrobe_ 2y ago
    Le Point has been criticized for anti-muslin tendencies by anti-racist associations [1] among other criticism about dishonest behavior. Its director of publication have been found guilty of libel against Chinese people, yet he is still employed by Le Point as of today. Just because other journals are worse doesn't makes Le Point a respectable journal. This is a typical case of shifting the baseline or "normalization of deviance" [2]. [1] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Point#Accusations_d'islamophobie https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Point#Accusations_d'islamop... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifting_baseline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifting_baseline
ofrzeta 2y ago
That reminded my of the Périphérique ghost rider "Black Prince" that became famous some years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH1-tieh9rA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH1-tieh9rA

That's "Périphérique", not "Périférique".

baobun 2y ago

Spoken like a true Parisian!

galaxyLogic 2y ago
Yes, no true Scotsman would say so :-)

astrobe_ 2y ago

Yes, it's the same greek root as "peripheral". A "périphérique" is a main road tha goes around the city. Paris' peripherique is called Le périphérique because it is famous a probably the largest in France. TFA opens with somewhat weird mentions to immigration waves, which become more concerning when we learn the author works at Le Point, a publication that favors right wing political points of view, but they eventually fairly describe (I think) the physical and demographic evolution of the metropolis. FWIW "immigrant-descended communities" is the politically correct way to call people that don't have Nos ancêtres les Gaulois* - "our fathers the Gauls", is a phrase that refers to what was taught in schools until approx. the generation of Boomers, and has become a cliché as it has become more and more untrue - if it ever was true. It can be interpreted as racist in specific cases.

kergonath 2y ago
> TFA opens with somewhat weird mentions to immigration waves, which become more concerning when we learn the author works at Le Point, a publication that favors right wing political points of view, but they eventually fairly describe (I think) the physical and demographic evolution of the metropolis. Let’s not get carried away. Le Point is fairly mainstream liberal magazine. Yes, it is right-wing, but it is not Valeurs Actuelles.
- astrobe_ 2y ago
  Le Point has been criticized for anti-muslin tendencies by anti-racist associations [1] among other criticism about dishonest behavior. Its director of publication have been found guilty of libel against Chinese people, yet he is still employed by Le Point as of today. Just because other journals are worse doesn't makes Le Point a respectable journal. This is a typical case of shifting the baseline or "normalization of deviance" [2]. [1] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Point#Accusations_d'islamophobie https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Point#Accusations_d'islamop... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifting_baseline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifting_baseline

ofrzeta 2y ago

That reminded my of the Périphérique ghost rider "Black Prince" that became famous some years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH1-tieh9rA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH1-tieh9rA