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You really don't have a problem with someone quietly ignoring your request to stop photographing you or your family minding your own business, and just continui

by _yb2s 2y ago

You really don't have a problem with someone quietly ignoring your request to stop photographing you or your family minding your own business, and just continuing? It feels like a massive invasion- I am pretty shocked that it isn't illegal already. I have had people do this to me, and I used body language rather than words to show that I was going to physically take the camera from them if they didn't stop- and I would do so, but it never got to that point. At one point I did demand a stranger delete the photos, and I watched until they were done, under the implication that I would be doing it for them if they didn't.

ryandrake 2y ago
I'm not saying I'd welcome it, but I can't really have a problem with it since it's a constitutionally-protected activity, and the filmer is not intentionally antagonizing anyone. We have the right to ask, but we can't force them to stop. Surely doing anything physically to stop them is crossing the line into robbery or battery. We have no expectation of privacy in a public place or in any place that can be reasonably considered public. Photographers do not have to obtain consent from anyone who is either incidentally in a recording or the subject in focus. It's surprising how many people don't know this. Someone, sometime in their past, must have taught them otherwise.
- _yb2s 2y ago
  You absolutely can have a problem with invasive and inappropriate behavior like this, even if it’s technically not illegal. You have every right to also do anything legal to stop them. You can’t rely on the law to set or enforce personal boundaries, that is your responsibility. I personally would not actually harm or rob anyone, but I certainly will make them strongly suspect that I am willing to by appearing to be extremely pissed off- after exhausting any possibility of reasoning with them. As I described above, this happens to me and my son a lot by virtue of hop how we look and what we are doing, and I won’t tolerate it. I’m actually a very calm person, but I am also a large scary looking man, and very very occasionally I will pretend to be about to lose control, for the sake of the kind of person that understands nothing else. They are lucky to be having this conflict with me, someone that won’t actually hurt them… as a lot of people would.

by _yb2s 2y ago

ryandrake 2y ago

I'm not saying I'd welcome it, but I can't really have a problem with it since it's a constitutionally-protected activity, and the filmer is not intentionally antagonizing anyone. We have the right to ask, but we can't force them to stop. Surely doing anything physically to stop them is crossing the line into robbery or battery. We have no expectation of privacy in a public place or in any place that can be reasonably considered public. Photographers do not have to obtain consent from anyone who is either incidentally in a recording or the subject in focus. It's surprising how many people don't know this. Someone, sometime in their past, must have taught them otherwise.

_yb2s 2y ago
You absolutely can have a problem with invasive and inappropriate behavior like this, even if it’s technically not illegal. You have every right to also do anything legal to stop them. You can’t rely on the law to set or enforce personal boundaries, that is your responsibility. I personally would not actually harm or rob anyone, but I certainly will make them strongly suspect that I am willing to by appearing to be extremely pissed off- after exhausting any possibility of reasoning with them. As I described above, this happens to me and my son a lot by virtue of hop how we look and what we are doing, and I won’t tolerate it. I’m actually a very calm person, but I am also a large scary looking man, and very very occasionally I will pretend to be about to lose control, for the sake of the kind of person that understands nothing else. They are lucky to be having this conflict with me, someone that won’t actually hurt them… as a lot of people would.