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Elon absolutely focuses on making money, which is why it was successful. I don’t know why your conclusion is completely backwards. Do you think blue origin is

Elon absolutely focuses on making money, which is why it was successful. I don’t know why your conclusion is completely backwards. Do you think blue origin is focused on making money? They haven’t done anything that would indicate that. SpaceX on the other hand focused on landing rockets completely to make money. There is no other reason to do it and it’s why NASA never focused on it. Starlink is entirely to make money to feed the mars mission long term. You might say that his visions aren’t focused on money, but the execution is ruthlessly so. It’s why both companies are famous for squeezing their suppliers so hard and inhousing when they can.

mbostleman 2y ago
Yea I have a hard time distinguishing focusing on return vs focusing on product. They’re complimentary, not mutually exclusive. I hope those implementing my investments are focused on both.
- infotainment 2y ago
  Disagree; consider enshittification; that process embodies the essence of focusing on return vs product.
  - dudeinjapan 2y ago
    In context it is too early in the cycle for SpaceX to begin enshittification. Wait until they start cutting Mars passenger’s legroom…
    - dylan604 2y ago
      Oh gawd, now that's a not pleasant thought. Thinking of long haul space flights in terms of today's air travels. I shudder at the thought of being in the middle seat for the duration of that trip
      - adastra22 2y ago
        There’s no reason for that. There’s no shortage of space in transit, and plenty of ideas for making transit comfortable (inflatable habitats or reusable cyclers, for example).
        dylan604 2y ago
        > There’s no reason for that. It's the exact same reason as it is now for air travel...profits. It doesn't matter the size of the ship. If you can squeeze the space to increase the number of occupants per flight on the same ship, you increase revenue. That's all corporate bean counters will care about. I would not be surprised if they hire a similar team that airlines have now that get paid to specifically redesign seats to squeeze more in per flight.
        adastra22 2y ago
        There's no air in space, so there's no need for aerodynamics. Inflatable structures allow for quite a bit of volume during transit without much impact on structural mass. This is not analogous to airplanes.
  - deciplex 2y ago
    Yes this exactly. Our entire economy is enshittified and becoming more so daily, and it's precisely because we've become a 100% production for profit economy. Eventually you lose the plot when you do that.
  - ikekkdcjkfke 2y ago
    Hopefully they won't change propellant to high pressure cow manure

mbostleman 2y ago

Yea I have a hard time distinguishing focusing on return vs focusing on product. They’re complimentary, not mutually exclusive. I hope those implementing my investments are focused on both.

infotainment 2y ago
Disagree; consider enshittification; that process embodies the essence of focusing on return vs product.
- dudeinjapan 2y ago
  In context it is too early in the cycle for SpaceX to begin enshittification. Wait until they start cutting Mars passenger’s legroom…
  - dylan604 2y ago
    Oh gawd, now that's a not pleasant thought. Thinking of long haul space flights in terms of today's air travels. I shudder at the thought of being in the middle seat for the duration of that trip
    - adastra22 2y ago
      There’s no reason for that. There’s no shortage of space in transit, and plenty of ideas for making transit comfortable (inflatable habitats or reusable cyclers, for example).
      - dylan604 2y ago
        > There’s no reason for that. It's the exact same reason as it is now for air travel...profits. It doesn't matter the size of the ship. If you can squeeze the space to increase the number of occupants per flight on the same ship, you increase revenue. That's all corporate bean counters will care about. I would not be surprised if they hire a similar team that airlines have now that get paid to specifically redesign seats to squeeze more in per flight.
        adastra22 2y ago
        There's no air in space, so there's no need for aerodynamics. Inflatable structures allow for quite a bit of volume during transit without much impact on structural mass. This is not analogous to airplanes.
- deciplex 2y ago
  Yes this exactly. Our entire economy is enshittified and becoming more so daily, and it's precisely because we've become a 100% production for profit economy. Eventually you lose the plot when you do that.
- ikekkdcjkfke 2y ago
  Hopefully they won't change propellant to high pressure cow manure